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Black History Month Series – In Conversation with Cherish Reardon

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Cherish Reardon

Black History Month Interview Series

In Conversation with Cherish Reardon

“HR isn’t a department tucked away somewhere, it’s how we are made to feel.” This is the guiding philosophy of Cherish Reardon, Co-Founder of Popsy Clothing. As a Forbes 30 Under 30 honoree and leader of a community of over 250,000 women, Cherish has proven that business growth and genuine human connection are not mutually exclusive. For our latest Black History Month feature on HR Spotlight, we sat down with Cherish to discuss how she scales culture without losing purpose, why listening is a founder’s most critical skill, and why true representation is about far more than just “ticking a box.”

HR Spotlight: Thank you for joining us, Cherish. Please share with our readers your current role and the experience you bring to people and HR at Popsy clothing?

Cherish Reardon:

My role as a Co-Founder is right at the heart of Popsy – the people. I wear many hats, but one of the most important things is making sure the people behind the brand feel supported, valued, and proud of what they do. HR for me isn’t a department tucked away somewhere, it’s how we are made to feel, how we are supported and being part of something.

Over the years I’ve worked closely with my team through growth, change, challenges such as a global pandemic, big wins, and that’s taught me how important trust and communication with the people around you really are. I try to bring a balance of structure and empathy, and I lead with my heart. 

HR Spotlight: What HR problem are you most excited to be working on right now?

Cherish Reardon:

The thing that excites me most right now is growing without losing our purpose. When you start a brand, everything feels very personal and connected, I have always had a very special relationship with both my team and our customers but as you scale, it takes real intention to keep that feeling alive. It can be easy to grow a team and a customer base and forget all the important little things that made it special. I make a real effort to still remember the small things with my team, chats with my customers and to check in to still keep it personal. 

I’m passionate about creating a workplace where people feel safe to speak up, try new things, and be themselves.

Fashion is creative, fast-moving, personal, and I want our team to feel as confident and supported as our customers who we design for. Building that kind of culture is absolutely key. 

HR Spotlight: What skill has been most important to your growth so far?

Cherish Reardon:

Honestly, it’s listening. Not just listening to respond but listening to understand what someone really needs. 

As a founder, you can be tempted to jump straight into fixing things. Naturally I am very empathetic and want to solve everybody’s problems but I’ve learnt that sometimes people just need to feel heard first.

HR Spotlight: What advice would you give to young Black people in business and HR or those just entering the space?

Cherish Reardon:

First, don’t shrink yourself to fit in. Your perspective is valuable, and the industry needs more voices that look and think differently. It would be a boring world if we all looked and thought the same. I was bullied at school for my curly hair and now my curls have become my signature! Embrace the differences.  As an introvert I have had to remind myself of this a lot over the years – you are unique and you deserve to be heard! 

Second, build real relationships. This is so important. At the start of my business journey, I was advised to ‘build your team around you’ and it really is key.  Your network isn’t about going to as many networking events that you can and to add them to your contacts to never speak to them again.  It’s about finding people who genuinely support you and challenge you to grow. The people that want you to succeed and push you to your full potential.  Those connections will carry you through the harder times as well as the good times. 

And if I’m talking to my younger self I’d say, start before you feel ready. You don’t need every answer to begin. Confidence comes from doing, failing, learning, and adjusting, not from waiting until everything feels perfect. If you wait for perfection, you will never start. 

Also, trust your instincts more because that inner voice usually knows the direction before your head catches up. 

HR Spotlight: What do you want people to understand about Black people in business and HR that often gets missed?

Cherish Reardon:

Black professionals bring a huge range of perspectives, leadership styles, and strengths, variety is exactly what makes businesses stronger.

In business and HR roles, representation matters because people want to feel heard and understood. When different voices are at the table, decisions become more thoughtful, innovation happens and you get different perspectives from all different walks of life.

For me, it’s not about diversity as a buzzword or ticking boxes, it’s about creating a genuine environment where everybody has the opportunity to thrive. 

HR Spotlight: Community plays a big role in Popsy Clothing. What does community mean to you, and how does it influence how you lead?

Cherish Reardon:

Community is honestly at the heart of everything we do. For me, community isn’t just about customers and sales, it’s about connection. It’s about creating a space where people feel seen, included, and proud to be part of something.  I am always reminding myself of this when making decisions.

One of my favourite aspects of what we do is being able to include our community on our clothing and in our representation. Growing up I don’t ever remember feeling represented on clothing, and I think it matters. Fashion is powerful and to be able to represent and celebrate all different people is something I’m really proud of. It’s not about ticking a box, it’s about authenticity and making sure our community feels genuinely represented and part of something special.




Cherish Reardon is the Co-Founder of Popsy Clothing, one of the UK’s most community-driven fashion brands. Built from a love of colour, print and wearable confidence, Popsy has grown into a thriving business with a community of over 250,000 women. With a Business Degree from Aston University and recognition including Forbes 30 Under 30 and multiple Great British Entrepreneur Awards, Cherish has built Popsy around three core pillars: confidence, inclusivity and connection. The brand designs distinctive prints in-house and manufactures the majority of its clothing in the UK.

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The HR Policy Battleground: Experts on What Employees Resist Most

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The HR Policy Battleground: Experts on What Employees Resist Most

Ever wondered why that one HR rule sparks instant eye-rolls across the office, turning policy into pushback? 

In a world where work-life balance clashes with operational needs, certain mandates—like rigid schedules or mandatory audits—ignite resistance faster than a bad coffee break. 

But is employee rebellion a sign of entitlement, or a cry for better communication?

HR Spotlight tapped CEOs, founders, and managers who’ve weathered these storms: from therapists charging no-show fees to auto techs snapping repair photos, and uniform audits rebranded as “refresh sessions.” 

Their candid stories reveal it’s rarely the rule itself—it’s the “why” that’s missing. 

Learn how reframing policies as protective armor, tying them to real metrics, or piloting flexible tweaks transforms grumbles into buy-in. 

If your team’s resisting, these insights might just rewrite your rulebook. 

Unlock the resistance-busters right here on HR Spotlight.

Read on!

Tim Johnson
CEO, Bizrok

I’ve worked with 50+ dental and medical practices, and the policy that gets the most resistance is mandatory personal development time.

When I require team members to spend 30-60 minutes weekly on skill training or reading during work hours, front desk staff and assistants initially see it as “time they could be catching up on patient calls or paperwork.”

The turning point came at a practice in Atlanta where the office manager resisted this for three months straight.

She finally committed to reading *Give and Take* by Adam Grant (one of our recommended books), and within two weeks she completely restructured how the team handled patient scheduling conflicts.

Their daily schedule gaps dropped from an average of 4.2 hours to 1.1 hours per provider–that’s an extra $180,000 in annual production capacity.

I address the resistance by tracking one specific metric before and after implementation.
For that Atlanta practice, we measured schedule efficiency.

For another practice in Indianapolis, we tracked patient complaint resolution time, which dropped 60% after their team started development sessions.

When team members see their own work getting easier because of what they learned during that “wasted” hour, they stop fighting it.

The key is making it protected time with a business metric attached.

Not “professional development because it’s good for you,” but “this solves the specific problem that’s been driving you crazy for six months.”

Mandatory Training Unlocks $180K Efficiency Gains

Alan Choi
Owner & Managing Director, Rainbow Auto Center

I’ve been running Rainbow Auto Center in Hayward since taking over from my father, and the policy that always gets pushback is mandatory post-repair photo documentation.

My techs hated stopping mid-workflow to photograph every stage of a collision repair–they saw it as micromanagement that slowed them down.

I changed the conversation when a customer’s insurance company tried to deny coverage on frame damage we’d already repaired.

Our step-by-step photos proved the structural work was necessary and legitimate.

That claim got approved within 48 hours instead of the usual 2-week fight, and the customer walked away trusting us completely.

Now my team requests the camera system before I even ask.

They realized those photos weren’t about me watching them–they were protection against blame when a claim gets disputed or a customer questions the bill six months later.

One tech told me it actually saved him from redoing work because he caught a prep issue in his own photos before painting.

The lesson: policies feel like punishment until people see them as armor.
Show your team how the “annoying rule” protects *them* from getting burned, and resistance turns into buy-in fast.

Repair Photos Become Team’s Best Armor

Dr. Elizabeth Barlow
Founder & CEO, Kinder Mind

I run a national mental health practice, so I see policy pushback from a clinical perspective.

The one that creates the most friction? Our 24-hour cancellation policy with a $25 first-time fee, then $75 after.

Clients feel punished when they’re charged, especially if they’re already struggling with anxiety or depression.

But when we tracked the data, late cancellations were costing our therapists an average of 8-12 hours per month in lost income and blocking waitlisted clients who desperately needed those slots.

One therapist lost $2,400 in a single month from no-shows before we implemented the policy.

I addressed it by reframing the conversation entirely–it’s not a penalty, it’s like buying concert tickets.

If you miss the show, you can’t get a refund regardless of the reason.

We also made sure therapists explained this during intake as protecting *everyone’s* access to care, not just protecting revenue.

When clients understood that their missed Monday appointment meant someone in crisis couldn’t get seen that week, resistance dropped significantly.

The shift happened when we stopped defending it as “policy” and started showing the human cost.

Our no-show rate dropped from 18% to under 4% within three months, and our waitlist times improved by nearly two weeks.

Cancellation Fees Protect Crisis Care Access

Selene Luk
Customer Care Manager, Spanish Cultural Association of Hong Kong

Strict clock-in rules always make employees nervous, especially in customer service or education where the work isn’t steady.

They often think it’s about trust, not time.

My advice? Talk to them directly about why the rule exists.

Then, try out a flexible option as a pilot.

People feel included that way, and the work still gets done.

Clock-In Rules Ease with Flexible Pilots

Josiah Lipsmeyer
Founder, Plasthetix Plastic Surgery Marketing

Here’s what I’ve seen running digital marketing teams: non-compete agreements cause the most drama, especially with creative folks.

We finally just changed the contract to spell out exactly who it applied to and for how long.

The complaining stopped pretty much immediately.

We explained why the policy existed and actually listened to their concerns.

If you want to keep good people, make these agreements fair and specific.

Don’t be vague.

Clear Non-Competes End the Drama Fast

Dr. Edward Espinosa
Owner, OptumMD

Healthcare workers hate rigid schedules, they really do.

So we tried letting them swap shifts easily and help build their own schedules.

It made a huge difference.

People were less stressed out, and we actually had better coverage.

Turns out, giving staff some control over their time keeps them happier and on the job longer.

It’s a simple fix that works.

Staff-Built Schedules Slash Stress Levels

Justin Carpenter
Founder, Jacksonville Maids

Our younger team is fed up with fixed schedules.

They want the freedom to swap shifts with coworkers.

We got a system where they handle it themselves, and it’s way better than our old method.

The stress of planning shifts is gone and morale is up.

If you can, give people control over their own time.

It’s worth it.

Self-Managed Swaps Boost Morale Overnight

Jodi McConnell
CEO, Uniform Connection

After 27+ years in the uniform business working with healthcare groups across Nebraska, the policy that gets the most resistance is mandatory dress code compliance audits.

When facilities require us to do quarterly on-site checks to ensure staff are wearing approved items correctly, employees immediately feel like they’re being policed rather than supported.

I fixed this at one large hospital group by reframing the visits entirely. Instead of “compliance checks,” we called them “wardrobe refresh appointments” where staff could swap worn-out scrubs, get refitted after weight changes, or grab new accessories–all during their shift.

We tracked that 40% of nurses were wearing the wrong size simply because their bodies had changed since their initial fitting, which meant they were uncomfortable all day for no reason.

The kicker was when one nurse told her manager she almost left for another facility because her scrubs fit so poorly she dreaded getting dressed for work.

After our refresh appointment, she stayed.

Management realized these “audits” weren’t about catching people–they were retention tools.

Now staff actually request the visits because they know they’ll leave feeling better, and compliance went from 73% to 94% without a single written warning.

Audits Rebranded as Refresh Sessions Win

Robin Mullins
Business Development Manager, Octagon Restoration

In my two decades in operations and HR leadership, the policy that consistently gets the most pushback is mandatory documentation requirements–especially incident reports and daily logs.

People see it as bureaucratic busywork that slows them down.

At the Chamber, our team initially resisted documenting every member interaction and partnership conversation.

They wanted to just “get things done” without the paperwork.

But when we had a sponsorship dispute with missing details about what was promised, everyone suddenly understood why records mattered.

I flipped the narrative by showing how documentation protects them personally, not just the organization.
When a property manager questions why emergency work was done without approval, our techs at Octagon have timestamped photos and notes proving the damage required immediate action.

That paper trail has saved jobs and prevented liability claims.

The key is proving that five minutes of documentation today prevents five hours of problems tomorrow.

Once employees see one real example where records saved someone’s job or protected the company from a lawsuit, resistance drops fast.

Documentation Saves Jobs from Disputes

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At Work, Relationships Are Operational

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February 13, 2026

At Work, Relationships Are Operational

By Tim Mobley, President, Connext Global

Valentine’s Day is usually framed as personal, but it’s also a useful moment to zoom out at work and ask a different question. What makes a professional relationship healthy in the first place? It’s not the perks or the forced bonding exercises. Instead, leaders should focus on whether people feel clear, safe, and supported enough to do great work with their colleagues, despite differences in their roles, backgrounds and pressures.

That’s why I keep coming back to a simple idea: Healthy workplace relationships rarely happen by chance. HR’s job is to design the conditions that make them possible.

  • Relationships Break Down When Systems Are Vague

Workplace relationships are shaped by structure, not just personality. How work gets assigned, how decisions get made, how feedback is delivered, and how conflict is addressed all determine how relationships feel day to day. 

Consider a long-term initiative that spans multiple departments, such as a year-long systems rollout involving operations, IT, finance, and customer support. These kinds of complex projects inevitably have overlapping deadlines and shifting priorities. Even when the entire team puts forward their best effort, pressure builds. 

Without clear ownership and decision rules, small miscommunications start to feel personal. A delayed response reads as avoidance, and a blunt message sounds dismissive. Tension grows even when no one intends harm.

  • Distributed Work Raises the Stakes

This dynamic intensifies in distributed teams. In a shared office, misunderstandings get corrected quickly because you can clarify intent in real time. In remote or global teams, it takes a more deliberate effort for those corrections to happen.

Returning to that cross-department project, imagine contributors spread across time zones. Scheduling constraints can cause some team members to miss meetings, while late-night emails may arrive without the context needed to interpret them right away. When this happens, silence fills the gaps and assumptions take hold.

In distributed teams, relationship issues surface faster when expectations are not written down. HR has to formalize how teams communicate, collaborate, and course correct, or small misunderstandings quietly turn into long-term disengagement.

  • Team Building Starts With Predictability

Many organizations misunderstand team building. They treat it as an event rather than an operating principle. Real team building is created through predictability. People need to know who makes decisions and how to communicate respectfully. 

On complex projects, this clarity matters even more. When teams know how tradeoffs are decided and how feedback flows, conflict becomes manageable instead of personal. HR sets those guardrails so the work can stay focused on progress rather than unspoken rules.

That’s how we create psychological safety — by delivering predictable outcomes when people speak up. 

  • Boundaries Protect Relationships From Burnout

Boundaries have become nonnegotiable in remote and hybrid environments. Without clarity, flexibility often turns into constant availability. People burn out when they never know where the edges are.

Team members stay online late to avoid being seen as uncommitted and they jump into issues outside their scope to keep projects moving. Over time, that leads to exhaustion and faltering collaboration.

One of HR’s most important responsibilities now is protecting boundaries. Clear norms around response times, escalation paths, and ownership prevent burnout before it starts. These norms do not need to be complex, yet they do need to be explicit.

  • Consistency Is the Foundation of Trust

Trust at work comes from consistency. When performance is measured predictably and feedback is delivered fairly, relationships feel steadier.

Inconsistent standards turn relationships political. People chase visibility instead of progress and credit becomes competitive. Employees are afraid to take the risks required to innovate. But if employees have a clear understanding of what good looks like and how growth is supported, collaboration becomes easier.

HR is responsible for building that consistency into the system.

  • Designing Relationships That Support Performance

I have seen firsthand how quickly relationships improve when these guardrails are treated as part of the operating system rather than personal preference. At Connext Global, we led a team transition for a U.S.-based managed service provider, and found that the real challenge was rebuilding trust, morale, and operational reliability after a strained outsourcing relationship. By establishing clear communication rhythms and consistent expectations, the team scaled while improving retention and satisfaction.

By designing expectations and boundaries into the system, relationships stop depending on guesswork and start supporting performance.

Ultimately, modern HR must lead this transformation. HR is creating the environment where relationships form and live. To be healthy, these relationships don’t require everyone to be close friends, but they do demand consistency and guardrails that protect people from unspoken expectations.

Valentine’s Day may be the reminder, but the work is ongoing. When HR designs the conditions for healthy relationships, teams spend less time managing friction and more time doing their best work.

About the Author

As President and Founder of Connext Global Solutions, Tim Mobley brings over 20 years of executive leadership experience to the team, including 10 years in the healthcare industry. He is a proud United States Military Academy graduate with an MBA from Harvard Business School. Tim enjoys mentoring young professionals, snowboarding in Japan and delivering Hawaiian chocolates to our offshore teams.

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Black History Month Series – In Conversation with Marcia Armstrong

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Marcia Armstrong

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In Conversation with Marcia Armstrong

“Financial stress does not stay at home. It follows people into meetings, decision-making, and team dynamics.” This is the core philosophy of Marcia Armstrong, a Financial Wellness and Employee Wellbeing Practitioner who is reshaping how organizations view performance. For this HR Spotlight feature, we sat down with Marcia to discuss the “invisible weight” employees carry, why empathy must be paired with structure to be effective, and how financial clarity can restore agency to a workforce.

HR Spotlight: Thank you for joining us, Marcia. Can you share your professional journey and the work you do in financial wellness and employee wellbeing?

Marcia Armstrong:

My professional journey has been shaped by a deep curiosity about how money influences behaviour, confidence, and opportunity. I saw early on that financial stress does not stay at home. It follows people into meetings, decision making, and team dynamics.

Today, my work focuses on financial wellness and literacy within organisations. I collaborate with HR teams and leaders to create practical learning spaces where employees can better understand their finances, reduce stress, and make informed decisions. It is not just about budgeting. It is about restoring clarity and agency so people can contribute fully at work and beyond.

HR Spotlight: What workplace challenge are you most passionate about addressing through your work with HR and leaders?

Marcia Armstrong:

I am most passionate about addressing the invisible weight employees carry due to financial stress. Many organisations focus on performance metrics without fully acknowledging the personal pressures that shape that performance.

When financial wellbeing is integrated into workplace culture, it changes how people engage. Conversations become more honest. Planning becomes more intentional. Teams operate with greater stability. Supporting financial wellness is ultimately about strengthening both the individual and the organisation.

HR Spotlight: What skill has been most important in working effectively alongside HR teams?

Marcia Armstrong:

Empathy paired with structure. HR professionals operate at the intersection of policy and people. To work effectively alongside them, I have had to listen carefully, understand organisational constraints, and design solutions that are realistic and respectful.

Clear communication has also been essential. Financial topics can feel intimidating. Translating complex ideas into accessible language builds trust, and trust is foundational in any people focused work.

HR Spotlight: What advice would you give to young Black women entering HR or people focused roles?

Marcia Armstrong:

Do not underestimate the value of your perspective. Many Black women have developed resilience, discernment, and emotional intelligence through lived experience. Those qualities are powerful assets in people centered roles.

At the same time, continue building technical expertise. Confidence grows when competence and conviction meet. And remember to care for yourself as intentionally as you care for others.

HR Spotlight: What do you want people to better understand about the role Black women play in workplace wellbeing?

Marcia Armstrong:

Black women often contribute to workplace wellbeing in ways that extend beyond formal titles. We mentor quietly. We mediate thoughtfully. We advocate courageously. We create spaces where others feel seen.

Black History Month invites us to recognise not only historic milestones but also present day leadership. The impact Black women make in workplaces today is part of a broader legacy of strength, strategy, and service. Acknowledging that contribution is not about symbolism. It is about ensuring that influence is supported and sustained.

Marcia’s insights remind us that wellbeing is not just about physical health or perks—it is about “restoring clarity and dignity.” Her powerful reminder that Black women often “mentor quietly and mediate thoughtfully” challenges leaders to recognize and support this unseen labor.

We at HR Spotlight thank Marcia for sharing her expertise on building organizational stability through financial literacy.

Marcia Armstrong is a financial wellness and employee wellbeing practitioner who partners with HR teams and organisational leaders to address the impact of financial stress in the workplace. Her work focuses on practical financial literacy, behaviour change, and creating safe spaces for honest conversations about money. She is passionate about strengthening workplace culture through clarity, dignity, and empowerment.

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Black History Month Series – In Conversation with Keyana Jones

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Keyana Jones

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In Conversation with Keyana Jones

“The most important skill in my growth has been the ability to say yes to an opportunity and turn it into influence.” This mindset has propelled Keyana Jones through a 15-year career spanning almost every facet of Human Resources. From her start as a talent acquisition coordinator to her current role as Senior Manager of Learning and Development at Optiv, Keyana has built a “well-rounded view” of how organizations operate. HR Spotlight sat down with her to discuss why L&D leaders must be human-centered in the age of AI, the influence of Simon Sinek on her leadership style, and why navigating complex systems makes Black women uniquely qualified for strategic roles.

HR Spotlight: Thank you for joining us, Keyana. Please share with our readers your experience in HR, what you currently do for work, and any passion projects you’re involved in.

Keyana Jones:

I’ve spent the past 15 years in HR, working across multiple capacities that have given me a well-rounded view of how organizations and people operate. I began my career as a talent acquisition coordinator, and over time, moved into roles such as HR administrator, onboarding specialist, HR business partner, and training specialist. Each role allowed me to see the business from a different angle and helped me sharpen my skills while clarifying what I truly enjoyed and wanted to focus on within HR. 

Currently, I serve as a senior manager of learning and development at Optiv, the cyber advisory and solutions leader, where I have an amazing opportunity to work at the intersection of strategy, engagement, growth and development, and organizational change. I partner closely with colleagues and business leaders to design solutions that foster personal growth, improve performance, build leadership capability, and help the organization navigate change in meaningful and sustainable ways. 

Outside of my corporate role, my passion projects center on service, mentorship, and knowledge sharing. I am an active member of the historically Black sorority, Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority Inc., where I focus on building strong foundations for Black women to be successful through governance, leadership development, mentorship, and building sustainable systems that support long-term impact. I also have a deep love for public speaking and teaching.

Whether facilitating workshops, mentoring emerging leaders, or diving into a good book, I find true joy in building new things and sowing seeds into others like so many did for me. One book that strongly influences how I approach my work is, “Start With Why: How Great Leaders Inspire Everyone to Take Action,” by Simon Sinek. It shapes how I think about purpose, intentionality, and impact. Overall, I genuinely love connecting with people and talking about work, growth, life, and occasionally my favorite show, “The Golden Girls.”

HR Spotlight: What HR problem are you most excited to be working on right now?

Keyana Jones:

An organizational opportunity I’m excited about is how we continue to equip employees with the skills they need to be successful in a constantly changing environment while still investing in them as people. With rapid adoption of new tools, including AI, the question isn’t just what we adopt but how we help people build confidence, capability, and relevance alongside those changes. For me, this work is about being intentional, thinking carefully about impact, and designing opportunities that are human-centered, inclusive, and sustainable. 

HR Spotlight: What skill has been most important to your growth in HR so far?

Keyana Jones:

The most important skill in my growth has been the ability to say yes to an opportunity and turn it into influence. My grandfather always taught me to never say no to an opportunity simply because it fell outside the scope of my role. My very first chance to move within HR was when I accepted the responsibility of facilitating the new employee orientation program. That opened more doors for me to work cross-functionally, build my personal brand and visibility, and partner with leaders across the organization, including executives. Through that experience, I learned how influence can be created from any level through preparation, consistency, and the ability to add value. 

HR Spotlight: What advice would you give to young Black women in HR or entering the HR profession?

Keyana Jones:

My advice to someone entering the field: Stay curious and raise your hand even for opportunities that may not seem desirable or perfectly aligned. Those experiences often teach you what truly brings you joy while also building depth of knowledge that becomes valuable in the future. Build intentional community, and surround yourself with people who won’t just mentor you, but who will actively help you move toward your goals and advocate for you. Use every role and opportunity to build trust and credibility. You are in the driver’s seat of your career. Own your path, your voice, and your value! 

HR Spotlight: What do you want people to understand about Black women in HR that often gets missed?

Keyana Jones:

What often gets missed is the level of complexity Black women have had to navigate and how that experience translates into value for organizations. We bring more than representation to an organization. We bring perspective shaped by navigating systems, people, and power simultaneously. We actively juggle multiple priorities with care and discernment and, as a result, we bring strong judgement, complex thinking, and the ability to identify risks and opportunity. 

We create waves for change through our voices and passion rooted in purpose. When Black women are trusted and empowered, we foster environments that promote long-term outcomes, sustainable decisions, and a deep care for others.  

Keyana Jones is a Senior Manager of Learning and Development at Optiv, the cyber advisory and solutions leader. With nearly 15 years at Optiv and 25 in the industry, Keyana’s experience spans enterprise learning, career pathways, and performance cycles, with an emphasis on adoption at scale and real-world application. She is known for turning strategy into usable capability by connecting learning, performance, and employee growth.

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Black History Month Series – In Conversation with Stephanie Clergé

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Stephanie Clergé

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In Conversation with Stephanie Clergé

For our latest Black History Month feature, HR Spotlight sat down with Stephanie Clergé, the VP of People Development at Kolbe Corp. Stephanie’s journey to the C-Suite was anything but linear; she began her career as an engineer in high-tech manufacturing.Today, she leverages that operational background to bridge the gap between human instincts and artificial intelligence. We spoke with her about leading AI adoption from a people-first perspective, the power of curiosity, and why understanding the “unwritten rules” of business is vital for career growth.

HR Spotlight: Thank you for joining us, Stephanie. Please share with our readers your experience in HR, what you currently do for work, and any passion projects you’re involved in.

Stephanie Clergé:

I currently serve as Vice President of People Development at Kolbe Corp, where I oversee our organizational culture, employee training, and performance. In addition to leading our internal people and learning strategy, I also work directly with client organizations around the world by training and consulting with leaders and supporting our global network of independent consultants who do similar work across industries and geographies.

My path into HR has been anything but traditional. I began my career as an engineer in high-tech manufacturing and later moved into senior program management roles focused on scaling new technologies. One of those assignments included leading the hiring, onboarding, and training of more than 700 employees in a single year. At the time, our business unit intentionally built its own people and talent team outside of traditional HR because leaders believed it was critical to deeply understand the operational realities of the business.

For much of my early career, I was doing HR work without carrying the HR title, and I will admit that I once viewed HR as a bit of a dirty word. That experience shaped how I approach people development today. I stay deeply grounded in business needs, operational realities, and measurable outcomes.

Later, I formally moved into HR and served as a program manager for a large-scale cultural transformation initiative across a global organization of more than 100,000 employees. While it was energizing to work closely with senior leadership, I also became very aware of how difficult it is to create meaningful and lasting culture change without clarity and alignment.

After running my own coaching and consulting practice, I joined Kolbe nearly ten years ago. What I love most about my current role is the ability to combine internal HR leadership with external consulting. I work with organizations of many sizes and industries while also building and shaping culture inside our own company.

My primary passion today sits at the intersection of human instincts and artificial intelligence. With a background in engineering and human-machine interaction, I am actively helping drive both internal AI adoption and the integration of AI into our external products and services. As organizations move into increasingly AI-infused workplaces, I believe this is an essential responsibility for HR leaders so that technology strengthens, rather than diminishes, human potential.

HR Spotlight: What HR problem are you most excited to be working on right now?

Stephanie Clergé:

The HR challenge I am most excited about right now is helping organizations move beyond access to AI and into real, human adoption of it.

For many years, we talked about a digital divide as a lack of access to technology. In most organizations today, that is no longer the real problem. Employees and leaders already have access to AI tools. The barrier is much more human, including lack of interest, fear, distrust, uncertainty about skills, and anxiety about what these technologies might mean for their future.

At Kolbe, I have been focused on building practical, people-centered approaches to AI adoption that go beyond traditional change management. Clear communication and executive buy-in are no longer enough. Unlike past technology shifts, such as when new tools only existed inside a factory or workplace, employees now encounter AI constantly in their personal lives. Their emotions, assumptions, experiences, and concerns come into the workplace with them.

To address this, I created an internal AI working group made up of representatives from every department. We share emerging AI use cases and news, and each member is responsible for implementing a small and practical AI project within their own function. I intentionally began with a coalition of the willing, with the longer-term goal of developing internal champions who can help engage others and better understand what may be preventing broader adoption.

The deeper challenge I am working on is helping employees understand how AI can enhance not only their productivity, but also their long-term value as contributors. Leaders are focused on performance, efficiency, and business results. Employees are often quietly asking very different questions. Will I be replaced? Can I learn fast enough? Will new roles truly exist for me?

My work now focuses on finding the right motivation and a sustainable pace for both groups. I use surveys, in-person sessions, and one-on-one conversations to understand what employees actually want, what they need, and what they will naturally engage with. This is where Kolbe’s instinctive strengths framework is especially valuable, because it helps us design AI adoption strategies that align with how people are naturally wired to take action.

HR Spotlight: What skill has been most important to your growth in HR so far?

Stephanie Clergé:

The most important skill in my growth, both in HR and in leadership more broadly, has been curiosity.

My decision to leave a large corporate environment and look for work where I could make a meaningful difference at scale began with curiosity, even if it did not feel that way at first. It started with frustration. I found myself spending a great deal of time mentoring colleagues and feeling discouraged when people did not act on my advice. In a conversation with a trusted colleague, she suggested that what I really needed was not more mentoring, but a coaching approach. That single comment led me to pursue a coaching certification, and it fundamentally changed how I work with people.

Becoming a coach taught me how to use curiosity differently. Instead of assuming I had the right answers, I learned to ask better questions, listen more deeply, and test what I was hearing across different people, teams, and environments. That shift from problem-solving for others to learning with them has shaped how I lead, how I partner with executives, and how I support employees navigating complex change.

I have also learned that curiosity needs to be directed inward. The more clearly we understand our own instincts, reactions, and assumptions, the better equipped we are to navigate challenges such as remote and hybrid work, division in the workplace, and the rapid pace of technological change, including AI.

Not everyone needs to pursue a formal coaching credential. Adopting a curious, coaching-oriented mindset is one of the most practical and powerful tools I know for managing teams, partnering with senior leaders, and navigating relationships outside of work.

HR Spotlight: What advice would you give to young Black women in HR or entering the HR profession?

Stephanie Clergé:

This is a difficult question to answer in today’s environment, because my early career was shaped by organizational values and systems that do not always exist in the same way anymore.

I began my career in an organization that emphasized results, quality, customer focus, and personal ownership of employability. There was a strong expectation that employees would not only do their jobs well, but also help co-create a great place to work. That environment gave me the freedom to focus on my role while also taking on additional projects and leadership opportunities.

I was also fortunate to have entered the company as an intern before becoming a full-time employee, which meant I learned many of the unwritten rules early. I learned how things really worked, how decisions were made, and how credibility was built. Not everyone had access to that same head start, and I became intentional about mentoring others and helping them understand the parts of organizational life that often take years to learn.

For many employees, especially those who are not naturally included in informal networks, social gatherings, or relationship-building spaces outside of work, access to those unwritten rules and informal learning matters even more.

My advice to young Black women in HR is to be proactive about building trusted relationships at work. Find a mentor, a peer partner, or a small circle of colleagues you can learn with and from. Look for people who are willing to share how influence, performance, and advancement really operate in your organization.

Earlier in my career, formal employee resource groups and affinity communities created powerful spaces for learning, belonging, and shared insight. In environments where those structures are limited or inconsistent today, it becomes even more important to intentionally create your own support system. Find people who can help you navigate both the visible and invisible sides of your career.

You do not have to navigate this work alone, and you should not have to guess your way into influence.

HR Spotlight: What do you want people to understand about Black women in HR that often gets missed?

Stephanie Clergé:

What often gets missed about Black women in HR is the depth and breadth of our business leadership.

For a long time, I was reluctant to even label myself as an HR professional because of the perception that HR was less strategic, less rigorous, or simply a support function rather than a true business partner. I also observed that Black women in HR leadership were frequently concentrated, or visibly recognized, only in diversity and inclusion roles rather than across the full spectrum of organizational strategy, operations, and leadership.

At a recent conference, the CEO of the Society for Human Resource Management described what CEOs most want from HR leaders as three things: competence, being a trusted confidant, and courage. That framework captures what I believe Black women in HR bring every day.

We are deeply competent in the people and business space. We build trust across organizations and are often the leaders others turn to when situations are complex, sensitive, or high-stakes. We bring courage, especially when it comes to raising issues that are uncomfortable, systemic, or easy to ignore.

Unfortunately, Black women in HR are sometimes pigeonholed. Advocacy for employees can be misread as being driven by emotion rather than professional judgment. Our leadership presence can be filtered through stereotypes instead of being recognized as strategic influence and organizational stewardship.

The reality is that Black women in HR are not only culture carriers or champions of inclusion. We are business leaders who help organizations navigate risk, performance, talent, and change. When that full contribution is recognized, organizations are better positioned to make smarter, more human, and more sustainable decisions.

As the VP of People Development at Kolbe Corp., Stephanie Clergé is positioned at the forefront of the human performance and assessment industries, playing a key role in how Kolbe continues to empower more lives through the power of instinctive strengths. She is responsible for many of the innovative, high-quality training programs that Kolbe Corp provides for leaders, teams and individuals, as well as the development of many new Kolbe products and solutions. Prior to joining Kolbe Corp, she created her own strengths-based coaching and training practice, partnering with organizations pioneering in the art of talent development. She also held a variety of operational leadership roles during a nearly 15-year career at Intel Corporation.

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