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Women’s History Month Series – In Conversation with Rachel Shaw

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HR Spotlight Interview

Rachel Shaw

Women's History Month Interview Series

In Conversation with Rachel Shaw

Joining us is Rachel Shaw, the founder of Rachel Shaw Inc. and a nationally recognized expert who has spent over two decades helping organizations turn complex compliance into operational strength.

Rachel is the visionary behind the ADA Interactive Process Hallway® protocol, a system now utilized by thousands of organizations to navigate disability accommodations with consistency, legal precision, and, most importantly, care. Today, she shares her “superpowers” for cooling off a workplace on fire, why she’s trading “culture fit” for “culture add,” and how she navigates the unique pressures of being a “fixer” in the corporate world.

Thank you for joining us, Rachel! HR has been through the wringer lately. From being the ‘bad guys’ during layoffs to the ‘fun police’ during RTO, a lot’s been happening. If you could clear the air right now, what is the one thing you wish every employee understood about your job?

Rachel Shaw:

HR is not the “fun police.” We are the stability system of the organization.

We are responsible for ensuring that decisions are made consistently, legally, and in a way that allows the organization to survive long-term. Sometimes that means saying no. Sometimes that means enforcing boundaries. The goal is not control. The goal is fairness, sustainability and clarity.

The best HR professionals care deeply about people and the organization’s mission. Our job is to hold both at the same time, even when it is uncomfortable.

We’ve heard it said that ‘Nobody plans to go into HR; they are usually dragged into it because they are good at listening.’ Is that true for you? What was the specific moment you realized, ‘Oh, I’m actually meant to do this’?

Rachel Shaw:

Not at all. An early career assessment actually told me HR was the least likely fit for me.

What I discovered over time is that HR is the perfect fit for people who can do three things well. Have hard conversations with care. See the complexity in human behavior. Stay grounded in what is right and defensible.

I am deeply mission-driven. I feel the human emotion in situations, but I am not led by it. I am led by data, process, and legal guidance while still caring about the human in front of me. That combination is what made me realize this is exactly where I am meant to be.

HR requires a weird mix of skills. You have to be part lawyer, part therapist, and part data analyst. If we stripped away the job title, what is the one ‘superpower’ you rely on most when the office is on fire?

Rachel Shaw:

Curiosity.

When something goes wrong in a workplace, most people react. I get curious. What happened. What system failed. What data are we missing. What assumption are we making.

Curiosity slows down reaction and replaces it with better decision-making. It allows me to solve the right problem, not just the loudest one.

If you could describe the current ‘mood’ of the workforce in 2026 using just one word, what would it be? Why?

Rachel Shaw:

Disconnected.

Not because people do not care, but because systems, leadership and work design have not caught up with how people actually live and work today. The opportunity in 2026 is to rebuild connections with intention.

We often talk about the ‘Glass Ceiling,’ but lately, the conversation has shifted to the ‘Glass Cliff’, where women are promoted to leadership only during times of crisis. Have you ever felt that pressure to be the ‘fixer’ in a broken system?

Rachel Shaw:

I absolutely identify as a fixer.

For women and other underrepresented groups, the standard has historically been higher. That pressure forces you to be sharper, faster and more creative. That pressure, while unfair, has also produced extraordinary leadership.

I walk into rooms assuming something can be better and that I have a role in making it better. That mindset is not ego. It is ownership.

Women in HR often get unfairly pigeonholed as the ‘office mom’ or the ‘policy police.’ How do you dismantle those stereotypes to ensure you are seen as a strategic business architect first?

Rachel Shaw:

I dismantle it by focusing on business outcomes.

HR drives profit, productivity, retention and risk management. We use data, process and structure to get there while also caring about people.

One example early in my career. HR was expected to provide food for every meeting. Instead of arguing about it, I rotated responsibility across departments. Within months, the practice disappeared because once everyone shared the labor, they realized it was not necessary.

I do not argue stereotypes. I redesign systems.

HR professionals are the ‘first responders’ of the corporate world, handling grief, layoffs, and conflict. What is your specific protocol for protecting your own peace after a day of absorbing everyone else’s stress?

Rachel Shaw:

I use what I call the pillow test.

If I can put my head down at night and not replay the day, I know I acted with integrity. If I cannot, I ask two questions. Did I do something that needs to be corrected? Or did something happen that I need to process?

Then I take action. I adjust the process, or I get support.

Replaying the past without action is not useful. Learning from it is.

Without naming names, tell us about a time you had to deliver tough news (a termination, a restructuring) that actually taught you something profound about leadership or empathy.

Rachel Shaw:

Early in my career, I realized that even when a termination decision is legally and operationally correct, the process determines whether it causes unnecessary harm.

If an employee does not understand how the decision was made, they experience it as something done to them rather than something they were part of.

That insight led me to create the Interactive Process Hallway® protocol, a system that gives employees clarity, time and information so they can understand and accept decisions, even difficult ones.

Good HR reduces trauma. Great HR reduces risk and trauma.

Have you ever felt pressure to soften your delivery or ‘be nice’ in a way that male counterparts aren’t? How do you balance empathy with the need to be firm on policy?

Rachel Shaw:

I have always been direct. I have been told I am too much, too fast, or too direct.

What I have learned is this. Employees do not need you to be soft. They need you to be honest, respectful and consistent.

People can feel when empathy is performative. What they trust is clarity delivered with care.

My success has always come from employees and unions knowing that even on their worst day, I will treat them with dignity.

The age-old tension is between ‘People’ and ‘Profits.’ Can you share a specific example where you had to fight for a budget or a benefit that didn’t have an immediate ROI, but you knew was critical for the culture?

Rachel Shaw:

This shows up most clearly in onboarding and leadership development.

I often tell leaders to think about onboarding the way colleges think about frosh orientation. When a student arrives on campus, there is an intentional experience designed to help them understand the culture, learn the rules, build relationships and feel a sense of belonging. We do that because we know it increases success, retention, and engagement.

Yet in the workplace, we bring employees in, hand them a laptop and expect them to figure it out.

If organizations invested in onboarding as a structured, multi-day experience focused on connection, clarity and culture, and paired that with leadership development that teaches supervisors how to lead humans, not just manage tasks, we would see measurable improvements in retention, productivity and engagement.

The return on investment is there. Most organizations simply do not measure it, or they do not invest long enough to see it.

We talk a lot about ‘gut feeling’ in hiring. How are you using data to challenge your own biases, or the biases of hiring managers, when it comes to promoting women and underrepresented talent?

Rachel Shaw:

“Gut Feeling” is often a placeholder for bias.

To counter that, we need structured interviews, consistent scoring and when possible, blind or partially blind early-stage processes.

Data does not eliminate bias, but it forces us to justify our decisions with evidence rather than instinct.

Statistically, women get stuck at the first step up to manager. As an HR leader, what is one systemic change you’ve implemented (or want to) that actually fixes this ‘broken rung’?

Rachel Shaw:

One of the most effective strategies I have implemented is using third-party technical interview panels in the early stages of hiring.

These panels focus strictly on capability, not personality or familiarity, and they provide a fact-based recommendation to the hiring authority. When there is a mismatch between the panel’s recommendation and the hiring manager’s preference, it creates a necessary coaching conversation. I will often ask a simple question: what is getting in your way of selecting this candidate?

In one case, a candidate who used a wheelchair was the top choice of the panel but not the hiring manager. When we talked it through, the concerns that surfaced were assumptions about travel, attendance and potential accommodation costs. We were able to walk through each concern with actual data, including the candidate’s strong attendance record, prior travel requirements, and the organization’s existing ADA-compliant infrastructure and centralized accommodation budget.

The manager was able to move from assumption to evidence, and the candidate was ultimately hired and has been successful in the role for many years.

The lesson is not that bias can be eliminated. It cannot. The lesson is that organizations can build systems that slow the decision down, surface the bias and require leaders to move from belief to data before they make hiring decisions.

What is the biggest myth about working in HR that you wish would die?

Rachel Shaw:

That HR is the heart of the organization.

We are not the heart. We are the entire cardiovascular system. We touch every part of the organization. When we are working well, everything functions. When we are not, everything feels it.

If you could ban one corporate buzzword forever, what would it be?

Rachel Shaw:

Culture fit.

What we should be talking about is culture add, how someone expands the organization’s thinking, not how closely they mirror it.

HR is often described as a thankless job—you’re the villain when things go wrong and invisible when things go right. Why do you stay? What is the specific moment that reminds you ‘This is why I do this’?

Rachel Shaw:

I stay because of the moments when someone says, ‘That was one of the hardest days of my life and you made it easier’.

That is the work. That is the responsibility. When it is done well, it changes how people experience their workplace and sometimes their lives.

HR is thankless only when it is done poorly or unsupported. When it is done well, it is one of the most meaningful roles in any organization.

“We are not the heart; we are the entire cardiovascular system.”

That perspective from Rachel Shaw perfectly encapsulates the vital, often invisible work that defines modern HR. From dismantling the “office mom” stereotype to replacing “gut feelings” with data-driven equity, Rachel’s insights remind us that the strongest systems are those built on curiosity, clarity, and dignity.

As we celebrate Women’s History Month, Rachel’s journey serves as a powerful blueprint for any leader looking to redesign broken systems rather than just managing within them. A huge thank you to Rachel Shaw for her transparency and for giving us a masterclass in leading with both a steady hand and a human heart.

Rachel Shaw, founder of Rachel Shaw Inc., is a nationally recognized ADA and leave management expert and sought-after speaker known for helping organizations turn legal compliance into operational strength. With more than two decades of experience, she designs in-house systems that allow employers to manage accommodations with both legal precision and human-centered leadership. She is the creator of the ADA Interactive Process Hallway® protocol, now used by thousands of organizations to manage disability accommodation requests confidently, consistently, and with care.

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Women’s History Month Series – In Conversation with Jenn Harrold

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Jenn Harrold

Women's History Month Interview Series

In Conversation with Jenn Harold

In HR Spotlight’s special Women’s History Month edition, we are sitting down with Jenn Harrold, the Senior Vice President of Human Resources at NewDay USA. With over 20 years of experience spanning technology, fintech, omni-channel retail, and logistics, Jenn has built a career translating business needs into human impact.

In this candid interview, she pulls back the curtain on the heavy emotional toll of being a corporate “first responder,” absorbing organizational stress so others can move forward. She also confronts the reality of the “glass cliff,” where women are often brought into leadership roles during crises specifically to fix broken systems. Jenn shares how she unlearned the conditioned need to “over-function” to prove her worth, transforming her approach by setting boundaries and refusing to carry fractured cultures alone.

Thank you for joining us, Jenn! HR has been through the wringer lately. From being the ‘bad guys’ during layoffs to the ‘fun police’ during RTO, a lot’s been happening. If you could clear the air right now, what is the one thing you wish every employee understood about your job?

Jenn Harrold:

I wish more people understood that HR professionals are people first.

When we orchestrate layoffs, we are not just managing spreadsheets, we are thinking about how to preserve dignity, how to communicate with clarity, and how to protect the people who are leaving and the people who are staying. We think about the ripple effects, and it takes a toll.

Sometimes we are asked to eliminate roles that belong to colleagues we’ve worked alongside for years. Sometimes we are even involved in decisions that impact our own teams. That work is heavy.

What’s rarely talked about is that we are the support system for everyone else, but we don’t always pause to process what we carry. We absorb a lot so others can move forward with steadiness.

Behind the policy and the process, we are simply human beings doing our best to balance compassion with business reality.

What boundary did you have to learn to set in your career that changed everything?

Jenn Harrold:

Early in my career, I thought being capable meant being available — all the time.

I’m a mom. A wife. A leader. I’ve carried a lot of titles. And somewhere along the way I decided I should be excellent at all of them simultaneously. I said yes quickly. I fixed things fast. I prided myself on being the person who could just get it done.

And for a while, that felt like ambition.

But if I’m honest, I was over-functioning. I wasn’t fully present anywhere. I was stretched across roles trying to prove I could carry it all — at work and at home.

I had to confront something uncomfortable: many women are conditioned to believe we have to outperform, overdeliver, and overextend just to earn and keep our seat at the table. I see it in my circles all the time.

At some point I realized that constantly being the fixer wasn’t leadership so, I started setting clearer boundaries.

At home, that meant being intentional about when I was working and when I was not. Not taking calls at dinner. Not mentally drafting responses during family time.

At work, it meant pushing back when “Can you just handle this?” became the default. My ability to GSD doesn’t mean I should absorb every urgent ask. Capability should not automatically equal responsibility.

The boundary that changed everything was this: I don’t have to prove my value by exhaustion.

When I stopped over-functioning, I didn’t lose influence. I gained clarity. And I show up stronger in every role because of it.

We’ve heard it said that ‘Nobody plans to go into HR; they are usually dragged into it because they are good at listening.’ Is that true for you? What was the specific moment you realized, ‘Oh, I’m actually meant to do this’?

Jenn Harrold:

Like many people in this field, I found my way here through proximity to people and performance. I began in the staffing agency world and eventually corporate recruiting.

The turning point came during a restructuring when I found myself leading recruiting and talent management. It was uncomfortable at first. I wrestled with imposter syndrome, the quiet voice asking, ‘do you actually belong in this seat?’

Then I led a major initiative that required aligning business strategy with talent outcomes. We weren’t just filling roles; we were shaping the future of the organization. That was the moment it clicked.

I realized I wasn’t just good at listening, I was good at translating business needs into human impact and vice versa. That’s when I knew this wasn’t accidental. It was alignment.

HR requires a weird mix of skills. You have to be part lawyer, part therapist, and part data analyst. If we stripped away the job title, what is the one ‘superpower’ you rely on most when the office is on fire?

Jenn Harrold:

Calm under pressure.

HR requires a strange but powerful blend of skills, part compliance, part therapist, part strategist, part analyst. But when things escalate, none of that matters if you can’t regulate the room.

In moments of crisis, my role is to create stability. I slow the pace emotionally, even if the decisions need to move quickly. I gather facts rapidly, assess risk, consider impact, and then move people toward clarity and action.

Panic spreads fast. If I can steady the energy, align the stakeholders, and keep the focus on solutions rather than noise, we can navigate almost anything. Rapid change and adaptation don’t intimidate me, they energize me.

If you could describe the current ‘mood’ of the workforce in 2026 using just one word, what would it be? Why?

Jenn Harrold:

Volatile — but not fragile.

The modern workforce is informed, vocal, and hyper-aware of power dynamics. Employees are recalibrating what loyalty, leadership, and work-life integration mean to them.

That creates intensity. Reactions are sharper. Decisions are faster. Transparency is demanded, not requested.

Volatility isn’t chaos — it’s compression. Everything moves faster now. Trust builds slower and it breaks quicker.

Organizations that lead with clarity and consistency will steady the room. Those that don’t will feel the swings.

We often talk about the ‘Glass Ceiling,’ but lately, the conversation has shifted to the ‘Glass Cliff’, where women are promoted to leadership only during times of crisis. Have you ever felt that pressure to be the ‘fixer’ in a broken system?

Jenn Harrold:

Absolutely.

I have a natural bias toward action. I move quickly. I assess, diagnose, and want to stabilize what feels chaotic. That instinct has served me well, especially in environments where change is constant and stakes are high.

But I’ve also learned that there’s a difference between being invited to lead transformation and being handed a mess and expected to absorb the fallout.

The “glass cliff” is real because women are often seen as emotionally intelligent, stabilizing forces. We’re brought in when morale is low, when culture is fractured, when trust has eroded. The unspoken expectation is that we will “fix” things.

What I’ve learned is this: I am willing to lead in a crisis, but I’m no longer willing to carry a broken system alone. Real change requires shared ownership. I’ll bring urgency, clarity, and solutions — but leadership is a team sport.

Being the fixer is powerful. Being the scapegoat is not.

HR professionals are the ‘first responders’ of the corporate world, handling grief, layoffs, and conflict. What is your specific protocol for protecting your own peace after a day of absorbing everyone else’s stress?

Jenn Harrold:

I compartmentalize — sometimes too well. It’s a strength and a liability.

Over time, I’ve realized that absorbing everyone else’s stress without releasing it is not sustainable. So, I’ve had to become intentional about decompression.

After an emotionally heavy day, I seek quiet. No noise. No input. I give myself space to process rather than immediately moving to the next thing. The pause matters.

Then I regulate — yoga, breath work, meditation. Movement is non-negotiable for me. I start every morning with a workout. It’s how I create resilience before the day ever asks anything of me.

Protecting your peace isn’t indulgent — it’s operationally necessary.

Without naming names, tell us about a time you had to deliver tough news (a termination, a restructuring) that actually taught you something profound about leadership or empathy.

Jenn Harrold:

I will never forget that day.

During a major restructuring, a new organizational design resulted in the elimination of a role held by a dear friend, and I had to be the one to tell her.

Professionally, I was composed. Personally, I was crushed. There is a particular kind of silence that follows news like that — the kind that stays with you long after the meeting ends.

We didn’t speak for a long time. When we eventually reconnected, something had shifted. She has since moved away, and our relationship was never the same.

Leadership is not about emotional distance. It’s about carrying responsibility even when it costs you something personally. Sometimes doing your job well doesn’t feel like winning and you have to be mature enough to hold that complexity without turning it into defensiveness.

That experience changed me. It made me softer in some ways. Stronger in others.

If you could ban one corporate buzzword forever, what would it be?

Jenn Harrold:

“Circle back.”

Not because the phrase itself is offensive — but because it’s often code for avoidance.

If something matters, address it. If a decision needs to be made, make it. If there’s conflict, have the conversation.

“Circle back” has become the polite cousin of procrastination.

HR is often described as a thankless job—you’re the villain when things go wrong and invisible when things go right. Why do you stay? What is the specific moment that reminds you ‘This is why I do this’?

Jenn Harrold:

Because in the moments that matter most, you see the impact.

It’s not in the big announcements or polished town halls. It’s in the quiet moments — when a leader grows into someone more self-aware. When a struggling employee stabilizes and finds their footing. When a difficult decision is handled with integrity instead of ego.

The moment that reminds me “this is why” is when someone says, “You told me the truth when I needed it,” or “You helped me see something I couldn’t see myself.”

HR sits at the intersection of performance and people. That tension is hard. It’s messy. It’s rarely celebrated.

When you help shape a system that both demands results and respects people — even imperfectly — that matters.

That’s why I stay.

A massive thank you to Jenn Harrold for bringing such profound clarity and empathy to HR Spotlight. Her journey proves that true leadership isn’t about absorbing every urgent ask or fixing every broken system alone; it is about creating stability, demanding shared ownership, and respecting the humans behind the performance metrics.

Jenn Harrold is the Senior VP of Human Resources at NewDay USA and an HR leader focused on talent strategy, organizational development, and growth. With 20+ years of experience spanning technology, omni-channel retail, fintech, and logistics, she partners closely with executive leadership to align people strategy with business goals and help emerging growth companies and SMBs scale through talent and culture. Jenn has a track record of leading transformative initiatives that drive engagement and performance, with deep expertise in performance management, retention, succession planning, and change management, and she is known for guiding teams through ambiguity and rapid change. A purpose-driven leader, she is committed to mentorship, community, and building high-performing teams that unlock organizational potential.

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Why Workplace AI Adoption is Quietly Becoming a Retention Risk

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February 26, 2026

Why Workplace AI Adoption is Quietly Becoming a Retention Risk

By Stephanie Davis Neill, COO of Click Boarding

The rapid adoption of AI has many employees, and organizations for that matter, feeling like everything is spinning. We are witnessing a pivotal moment in the evolution of the modern workplace. We have just released some new research at Click Boarding, which has found that mandated AI adoption is quietly emerging as a retention risk for employers.

AI processes being implemented across workplaces seem to currently be driving disengagement instead of delivering productivity gains. U.S. employee engagement has fallen to its lowest level in 10 years, while job-seeking activity is at a decade high. This month is especially high risk for employers, with the most resignations happening in March last year.

  • The leadership disconnect

A disconnect is apparent as only 4% of employers report employee resistance as a barrier to AI adoption. However, nearly a quarter of workers (22%) say that they would consider leaving a job because of this. This suggests many leaders are unaware of this growing resentment from employees. Analyzing social media posts, we found that employees are quitting over mandatory AI tools that reduce their autonomy, create extra processes and make their work feel less meaningful.

Search data also shows a 10% year over year increase in U.S. searches for “quitting my job.” More tellingly, we are seeing the emergence of specific queries like “made to use AI at work,” which now garners 1,000 monthly searches. This disengagement stems from the challenges of managing change, with AI adding another layer of uncertainty for employees and HR alike. When tools are mandated across a workforce without proper integration, it can create a friction that workers are increasingly unwilling to tolerate.

  • The burden of training your own replacement

A primary driver of employee frustration is the lack of inclusion in AI-related discussions with leadership. Our analysis found workers to have expressed discomfort with developing AI tools and reporting on their performance, something which is rooted in fears that the systems they train could eventually replace their own roles. Without transparency, employees may feel they are being asked to build the very tools that will lead to their job roles becoming obsolete.

In sectors like information, technology, and professional services, AI adoption and labor demand for AI skills are rising sharply. Stanford’s AI Index notes an 80% year over year increase in AI skill demand for the information sector alone. Yet, despite this demand, Glassdoor reviews for leading IT companies in the U.S. show that workers feel sidelined and want to be involved in AI-related discussions.

  • Quality concerns and the “AI Big Brother” effect

We also found that many employees still prefer to spend longer doing something without AI due to creativity and quality issues. In some cases, the pressure is so high that people are lying about their AI use to meet mandatory usage requirements. There are frustrations around poor AI performance blamed on “bad prompts”, and that management has too high expectations of AI to replace job responsibilities it is not yet capable of.

The implementation of these tools is sometimes also perceived as a new form of surveillance. One Glassdoor review described their organization’s AI tools as “AI Big Brother,” negatively mentioning having daily screen time tracked down to the minute. Another suggested that those who do not engage with, or believe in, AI, faced worsened career prospects. This creates a culture of performative adoption rather than genuine, productive integration.

  • Rethinking change management for the AI era

Even before AI, change management has always been one of the most challenging things to get right in business. HR is often looked at to lead these efforts, but HRs are navigating the same uncertainty as the rest of the staff. We must remember that just as AI must learn and iterate, so do the employees working alongside it. It is a gradual process of adaptation and not a binary event that happens overnight.

To mitigate AI-related retention risks, I recommend that employers update compliance-driven policies to include AI guidelines and share key AI process information early in onboarding. It is essential to ensure that employees acknowledge these too. This sets a foundation of transparency for the entire tenure of the employee, and sharing this information early helps set the right expectations from day one.

  • The power of proactive feedback loops

Internal feedback mechanisms, especially anonymous ones, often provide a place for disengaged employees to communicate some of the frustration that can build up. This is especially vital when regular conversations are not happening with a direct leader. Providing regular and open feedback channels will allow organizations to address concerns proactively. By listening to their staff, organizations can pivot their AI strategies to be more supportive.

Ultimately, the goal is to keep employees engaged and empowered as AI adoption continues to evolve. You can learn more about the retention risk of getting AI adoption wrong to ensure your organization is on the right side of this transition.

Stephanie David Neill

About the Author

As COO, Stephanie Davis Neill leads efforts to retain and grow Click Boarding’s customer base while optimizing operations for scalable growth. With over 25 years of experience in operations across startups, private-equity-backed firms, and Fortune-ranked companies, she is a proven change leader, most recently serving as VP of Customer Success & Direct Sales at Aaron’s.

Passionate about building efficient processes, she applies Lean/Six Sigma methodologies to drive strategic problem-solving and cross-functional collaboration. Her expertise spans B2B account management, customer experience, and service management. A Georgia Tech graduate, Stephanie enjoys traveling and volunteering when not at home in Marietta, Georgia, with her family and rescue dog, Peanut.

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Black History Month Series – In Conversation with Jim Stroud

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Jim Stroud

Black History Month Interview Series

In Conversation with Jim Stroud

Today, we have the privilege of speaking with Jim Stroud. With over two decades of experience navigating the intersection of talent and technology at global powerhouses like Microsoft, Google, and Randstad, Jim has been a constant force for innovation in how organizations hire and scale. Currently the Head of Market Strategy & Industry Engagement at ProvenBase, Jim joins us to discuss the realities of AI in recruiting, the vital skill of “adaptive reinvention,” and his candid advice for the next generation of Black professionals.

Thank you for joining us, Jim. Please share with our readers your experience and what you currently do for work (and passion projects)!

Jim Stroud:

I’ve been working at the intersection of technology and talent for more than two decades, long enough to see multiple waves of disruption come and go. I started in internet recruiting in the late 1990s, when sourcing candidates online was still considered experimental. Since then, I’ve served in roles at companies such as Microsoft, Google, Siemens, MCI, Bernard Hodes Group, and Randstad Sourceright, where I was Global Head of Sourcing and Recruiting Strategy. Across those experiences, my focus has been consistent: use technology, data, and creativity to solve hiring problems that feel unsolvable.
 
Over time, my work expanded beyond sourcing into thought leadership and demand generation for HR technology companies. I’ve led marketing and brand strategy efforts, built content engines from scratch, increased inbound lead flow, and translated complex labor-market shifts into narratives executives can act on. I’ve also spent years on global stages speaking about AI in recruiting, the hidden job market, and how employer behavior is changing faster than most systems can keep up.
 
Today, I serve as Head of Market Strategy & Industry Engagement at ProvenBase. In that role, I own external narrative, industry visibility, and market engagement. I evangelize our Deep Search approach, work closely with sales and product, engage directly with talent acquisition leaders, and help shape how we position ourselves in a skills-first, AI-influenced hiring landscape. My job is to connect the dots between what’s happening in the labor market and what organizations should do next.
 
Alongside that, I continue to build and create. I publish The Recruiting Life newsletter, host The Jim Stroud Podcast, and develop career intelligence tools focused on uncovering hidden hiring signals. I’ve launched products like The Invisible Job Market Detector and Relaunched Recruiting Radar to help recruiters and job seekers alike see what traditional systems miss. I also speak internationally and experiment constantly with AI-driven workflows, content formats, and audience-building strategies.
 
At heart, I’m a translator. I study where work is going, where hiring is breaking, and where technology is overpromising or underperforming, then I turn that into practical insight. Whether I’m advising an HR tech startup, speaking at a conference, or building a new tool, the mission is the same: make the invisible visible, reduce friction in hiring, and help people navigate the future of work with clarity instead of fear.

What problem are you most excited to be working on right now?

Jim Stroud:

One problem I am genuinely excited about right now is how to leverage AI to increase brand visibility and generate qualified demand for an HR tech company. Not vanity metrics. Not surface-level automation. Real awareness that converts into meaningful conversations.
 
I’ve been deep in experimentation mode — exploring emerging AI workflows, testing what some call “vibe coding,” and pushing myself beyond simple prompt usage into systems thinking. How do we structure content so it ranks inside large language models? How do we turn expertise into scalable distribution? How do we design AI experiences that create pull instead of noise?
 
This particular initiative is still in stealth mode, but it represents a practical proving ground for everything I’ve been studying. The goal is simple: use AI not as a gimmick, but as a strategic force multiplier for narrative, visibility, and pipeline.
 
I’m looking forward to sharing more details publicly soon.

What skill has been most important to your growth so far?

Jim Stroud:

The skill that has mattered most in my growth across tech and HR is adaptive reinvention.
 
This industry does not sit still. The tools change. The platforms change. The labor market shifts. AI rewrites the rules. What worked five years ago can quietly become obsolete. My ability to continuously learn, unlearn, and rebuild has kept me relevant — and useful.
 
I have moved from early internet sourcing to social recruiting, from content marketing to demand generation, from manual research to AI-augmented intelligence. Each phase required new skills, new frameworks, and often a new identity. I have never been overly attached to how things used to work.
 
Beyond adaptability, I’ve consistently paired data with imagination. Data tells you what is happening. Imagination helps you see what could happen. The intersection of those two is where real strategy lives. AI has amplified that capability for me. It allows me to test ideas faster, surface insights sooner, and scale execution in ways that would have been impossible even a few years ago.
 
Staying curious, staying uncomfortable, and staying willing to evolve — that has been the consistent pattern in my career.

What is some advice you want to give to other young Black people in the industry or entering the space?

Jim Stroud:

First, master the craft before you chase the spotlight.
 
There is nothing more powerful than being undeniably good at what you do. Learn the tools. Learn the business model. Learn how revenue is made. Learn how decisions are really made inside organizations. Competence builds confidence. Competence also travels. When you are excellent, your options expand.
 
Second, do not wait for permission to build your own platform.
 
Your voice does not need validation to have value. Write. Publish. Record. Speak. Share your perspective. The industry often discovers people after they have already been creating consistently. Visibility compounds. Ownership compounds. Build something that is yours.
 
Third, understand the room without shrinking in it.
 
You will walk into rooms where you are underestimated. That is real. Prepare anyway. Speak clearly. Know your numbers. Bring receipts. You do not need to perform respectability. You need to deliver insight. When your thinking is sharp, the room adjusts.
 
Fourth, study technology early.
 
AI, automation, analytics — these are not side conversations. They are reshaping hiring and career mobility in real time. If you understand how technology influences power, access, and opportunity, you position yourself ahead of the curve instead of reacting to it.
 
Finally, protect your imagination.
 
Do not let the limitations of the present define what you believe is possible. I started in recruiting when the internet was still new. I have watched entire categories appear out of thin air. The future of work is still being written. There is room for you to shape it.
 
Be excellent. Be visible. Be prepared. And build something that outlives the moment.

What do you want people to understand about Black people in the industry that often gets missed?

Jim Stroud:

What I want people to understand is that Black professionals in tech and HR are not a monolith.
 
We are not a talking point. We are not a diversity statistic. We are not an ideology. We are individuals with different beliefs, different experiences, and different political and cultural views. That often gets missed.
 
Too often, conversations about Black professionals get filtered through a narrow cultural lens. The assumption is that we all think the same, vote the same, interpret the workplace the same, or prioritize the same issues. That is simply not true. Some of us are builders. Some of us are technologists. Some of us are entrepreneurs. Some of us are conservative. Some of us are progressive. Most of us are focused on doing excellent work and building stable lives.
 
Another thing that gets missed is agency.
 
Black professionals in tech and HR are not passive participants waiting to be “included.” Many of us have built platforms, companies, communities, and intellectual property from scratch. We are contributors to innovation, not just beneficiaries of access. The narrative often centers barriers. It rarely centers capability.
 
I also think it is important to emphasize standards.
 
Excellence matters. Competence matters. Preparation matters. The fastest way to earn durable respect in any industry is to be excellent at your craft. That principle transcends race. When we focus on skill, results, and value creation, we elevate the conversation beyond symbolism.
 
At the end of the day, I want people to see Black professionals the way they should see any professional: as individuals judged by the quality of their thinking, the strength of their character, and the results they produce. Not as representatives of a cultural script, but as people building meaningful work in a rapidly changing industry.




Jim Stroud is a globally recognized voice on recruiting, careers, and labor market intelligence. With more than two decades of experience spanning Microsoft, Google, and Randstad, he helps organizations and professionals navigate shifts in hiring, AI, and workforce strategy. He currently serves as Head of Market Strategy & Industry Engagement at ProvenBase and is the creator of The Recruiting Life newsletter and host of The Jim Stroud Podcast.

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Black History Month Series – In Conversation with Cherish Reardon

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Cherish Reardon

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In Conversation with Cherish Reardon

“HR isn’t a department tucked away somewhere, it’s how we are made to feel.” This is the guiding philosophy of Cherish Reardon, Co-Founder of Popsy Clothing. As a Forbes 30 Under 30 honoree and leader of a community of over 250,000 women, Cherish has proven that business growth and genuine human connection are not mutually exclusive. For our latest Black History Month feature on HR Spotlight, we sat down with Cherish to discuss how she scales culture without losing purpose, why listening is a founder’s most critical skill, and why true representation is about far more than just “ticking a box.”

HR Spotlight: Thank you for joining us, Cherish. Please share with our readers your current role and the experience you bring to people and HR at Popsy clothing?

Cherish Reardon:

My role as a Co-Founder is right at the heart of Popsy – the people. I wear many hats, but one of the most important things is making sure the people behind the brand feel supported, valued, and proud of what they do. HR for me isn’t a department tucked away somewhere, it’s how we are made to feel, how we are supported and being part of something.

Over the years I’ve worked closely with my team through growth, change, challenges such as a global pandemic, big wins, and that’s taught me how important trust and communication with the people around you really are. I try to bring a balance of structure and empathy, and I lead with my heart. 

HR Spotlight: What HR problem are you most excited to be working on right now?

Cherish Reardon:

The thing that excites me most right now is growing without losing our purpose. When you start a brand, everything feels very personal and connected, I have always had a very special relationship with both my team and our customers but as you scale, it takes real intention to keep that feeling alive. It can be easy to grow a team and a customer base and forget all the important little things that made it special. I make a real effort to still remember the small things with my team, chats with my customers and to check in to still keep it personal. 

I’m passionate about creating a workplace where people feel safe to speak up, try new things, and be themselves.

Fashion is creative, fast-moving, personal, and I want our team to feel as confident and supported as our customers who we design for. Building that kind of culture is absolutely key. 

HR Spotlight: What skill has been most important to your growth so far?

Cherish Reardon:

Honestly, it’s listening. Not just listening to respond but listening to understand what someone really needs. 

As a founder, you can be tempted to jump straight into fixing things. Naturally I am very empathetic and want to solve everybody’s problems but I’ve learnt that sometimes people just need to feel heard first.

HR Spotlight: What advice would you give to young Black people in business and HR or those just entering the space?

Cherish Reardon:

First, don’t shrink yourself to fit in. Your perspective is valuable, and the industry needs more voices that look and think differently. It would be a boring world if we all looked and thought the same. I was bullied at school for my curly hair and now my curls have become my signature! Embrace the differences.  As an introvert I have had to remind myself of this a lot over the years – you are unique and you deserve to be heard! 

Second, build real relationships. This is so important. At the start of my business journey, I was advised to ‘build your team around you’ and it really is key.  Your network isn’t about going to as many networking events that you can and to add them to your contacts to never speak to them again.  It’s about finding people who genuinely support you and challenge you to grow. The people that want you to succeed and push you to your full potential.  Those connections will carry you through the harder times as well as the good times. 

And if I’m talking to my younger self I’d say, start before you feel ready. You don’t need every answer to begin. Confidence comes from doing, failing, learning, and adjusting, not from waiting until everything feels perfect. If you wait for perfection, you will never start. 

Also, trust your instincts more because that inner voice usually knows the direction before your head catches up. 

HR Spotlight: What do you want people to understand about Black people in business and HR that often gets missed?

Cherish Reardon:

Black professionals bring a huge range of perspectives, leadership styles, and strengths, variety is exactly what makes businesses stronger.

In business and HR roles, representation matters because people want to feel heard and understood. When different voices are at the table, decisions become more thoughtful, innovation happens and you get different perspectives from all different walks of life.

For me, it’s not about diversity as a buzzword or ticking boxes, it’s about creating a genuine environment where everybody has the opportunity to thrive. 

HR Spotlight: Community plays a big role in Popsy Clothing. What does community mean to you, and how does it influence how you lead?

Cherish Reardon:

Community is honestly at the heart of everything we do. For me, community isn’t just about customers and sales, it’s about connection. It’s about creating a space where people feel seen, included, and proud to be part of something.  I am always reminding myself of this when making decisions.

One of my favourite aspects of what we do is being able to include our community on our clothing and in our representation. Growing up I don’t ever remember feeling represented on clothing, and I think it matters. Fashion is powerful and to be able to represent and celebrate all different people is something I’m really proud of. It’s not about ticking a box, it’s about authenticity and making sure our community feels genuinely represented and part of something special.




Cherish Reardon is the Co-Founder of Popsy Clothing, one of the UK’s most community-driven fashion brands. Built from a love of colour, print and wearable confidence, Popsy has grown into a thriving business with a community of over 250,000 women. With a Business Degree from Aston University and recognition including Forbes 30 Under 30 and multiple Great British Entrepreneur Awards, Cherish has built Popsy around three core pillars: confidence, inclusivity and connection. The brand designs distinctive prints in-house and manufactures the majority of its clothing in the UK.

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Stopping the Exit: HR Strategies for When Employees Start “Cushioning”

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Stopping the Exit: HR Strategies for When Employees Start "Cushioning"

Your top performer just quietly applied elsewhere—again. “Career cushioning” isn’t a fad; it’s the new normal in a workforce where loyalty feels optional and options abound. 

But is it betrayal, or a blazing red flag that something’s broken inside your culture?

HR Spotlight went straight to CEOs and founders who’ve stared down this silent exodus: from Gen Z teams vanishing until given real paths, to high-performers drifting when ideas die unheard. 

Their unfiltered wisdom? It’s rarely about money—it’s about feeling seen, stretched, and part of something bigger. 

Discover how honest one-on-ones, visible growth maps, and genuine empathy turn “one foot out the door” into “all in for the long haul.” 

If you’re losing talent you can’t afford to lose, these battle-tested moves might just save your team. 

Dive into the real talk on HR Spotlight.

Read on!

Justin Carpenter
Founder, Jacksonville Maids

My Gen Z team starts looking for other jobs the second they feel stuck.

We were losing people last year until we moved our reliable seasonal workers into full-time positions with benefits and showed them an actual path forward.

They don’t seem to be looking anymore.

Honestly, just sitting down with them one-on-one on a regular basis is what keeps them around.

It’s that simple.

One-on-Ones Stop Gen Z Job Hunts

Joe Spisak
CEO, Fulfill

I’ve learned that career cushioning isn’t the problem–it’s the symptom.

When your best people are quietly interviewing, they’re telling you something broke in your culture before they ever updated their LinkedIn profile.

At Fulfill.com, I’ve seen this play out dozens of times as we’ve scaled from startup to a company working with thousands of brands.

The reality is that top performers don’t wake up one day and decide to leave.

They make that decision incrementally, over weeks or months, when small disappointments compound.

Maybe they pitched an idea that got ignored. Maybe they hit a growth ceiling.

Maybe they realized their manager cares more about metrics than their development.

Here’s what I do when I sense someone’s checking out.

First, I have an honest conversation–not the corporate HR version, but a real one.

I ask directly: What would make you excited to be here in two years? What’s frustrating you right now that I don’t see?

Sometimes the answer surprises me.

I had a warehouse operations lead who seemed disengaged, and I assumed it was compensation.

Turns out, he wanted to build our automation strategy but thought we only saw him as an ops guy.

We restructured his role, and he’s still with us three years later.

Second, I’ve stopped trying to retain everyone.

Some people should leave, and that’s healthy.

If someone’s career goals genuinely don’t align with where we’re headed, I help them find their next opportunity.

That authenticity builds trust with everyone else on the team.

Third, I focus on the people who aren’t job hunting yet.

Career cushioning spreads when your engaged employees watch you ignore the warning signs with others.

They think, if leadership couldn’t keep Sarah happy, why would they fight for me?

So I’m obsessive about one-on-one, about asking what people need before they’re desperate enough to start interviewing.

The logistics industry moves fast, and we compete for talent with tech companies offering ridiculous perks.

What I’ve learned is that people don’t leave for ping pong tables.

They leave when they stop believing in the mission or their role in it.

My job isn’t to prevent people from interviewing–it’s to build something worth staying for.

When you do that right, career cushioning becomes rare because your best people are too busy building something meaningful to browse job boards.

Cushioning Is a Culture Warning Sign

Debbie Naren
Founder & Design Director, Limeapple

Overlooking the subtle signs of career cushioning can result in sudden talent drain and unravel the fabric of team morale.

When high performers begin quietly testing the job market, it’s often a clear signal that core needs are being overlooked or that engagement levels are slipping—a sentiment that can ripple through an organization if left unchecked.

Forward-thinking leaders don’t wait for a resignation letter to arrive; they make regular, intentional check-ins a cornerstone of their leadership.

By nurturing a culture where concerns and ambitions can be voiced without fear, leaders not only build real trust but often reignite the passion and loyalty of their top talent before the temptation to leave turns into action.

Check-Ins Reignite Passion Before Exit

Susan Collins
Executive Career Coach, The Network Concierge

Building a career takes perspective and strategy.

Too often, leaders don’t consider new opportunities until they are “running from something” in their job.

By that time, they are less likely to wait for the “right” job.

Interviewing when you have a job gives you time and space to make decisions that align with your values and long-term goals, while also providing perspective on what is happening outside your organization.

This perspective makes you a more valuable player at work, offering fresh insights into your competitors.

I work with leaders who are curious but afraid of the significant change a new job could bring.

Think of your job search like having a party.

You would never have a party without cleaning the house.

Invest time in updating your resume annually, your LinkedIn profile quarterly, and take that call from the recruiter!

More importantly, do the inner work of knowing yourself, your dreams, your aspirations, and the patterns behind your decisions.

It will make saying no easier, but you will also be ready to say yes when the time is right.

Exploring Sharpens Value, Not Betrayal

Edward Piazza
President, Titan Funding

Good people in finance are always looking around, even when they seem fine.

I’ve learned that when someone gets antsy, it’s because they’re bored or don’t see a future here.

What actually helps is giving them a shot at something new, a bigger project, or just talking about what’s next.

When they see a path forward, they stop looking elsewhere.

New Challenges Halt the Quiet Search

Matt Bolton
Business Development Director, Parallel Project Training

When people quietly interview elsewhere, there are two things I suggest checking.

Firstly, salary: make sure that what you are offering is still within the typical salary range for the role.

Secondly, does the role no longer push them, has it become unrewarding?

As a leader, you need to prevent it before it becomes a resignation.

I advise managers to pick up the conversation early and ask a simple question: “what would make this role feel like progress again?”.

You don’t have to promise the world or seem desperate!

But you can offer development pathways, training, clearer expectations, or more interesting project responsibilities.

In my experience, people don’t walk away from a company that actively invests in their growth unless there is a much more competitive salary on offer elsewhere, and you are not paying current market rates.

Ask What Makes Role Progress Again

Akram Azaz
Director, Genie Hiring

Career cushioning is a natural response in today’s uncertain job market, and leaders shouldn’t take it personally.

The key is to focus on what you can control, which is creating an environment where your best people want to stay.

Early in my career, I learned that showing genuine empathy and asking about personal challenges can completely transform an employee’s engagement and performance.

When you notice someone seems disengaged or has one foot out the door, have an honest conversation about what they’re facing both professionally and personally.

Sometimes the issue isn’t the job itself but other factors that a caring leader can help address.

The best retention strategy is building real relationships with your team before problems arise.

Empathy Transforms Engagement and Loyalty

Chaitanya Sagar
Founder & CEO, Perceptive Analytics

Career cushioning is really just a new name for something people have always done which is keeping optionality when they feel uncertain.

I don’t see it as disloyalty.

I see it as data.

When high performers quietly start exploring the market it usually signals one of three things: they’re not growing, they don’t feel heard or they don’t see a future they can trust.

The worst leadership response is suspicion. The best response is curiosity.

A few practices that have helped me when I sensed great people drifting:

– Have real career conversations. Don’t wait for a resignation to ask someone what they want next.

– Make their growth path visible. People stay when they can clearly see the next chapter inside the company.


– Remove internal friction. High performers leave when bureaucracy feels harder than the actual work.


– Show consistent appreciation. Not the performative kind but meaningful responsibility and recognition outside of performance cycles.

When people feel valued, challenged and supported they stop interviewing “just in case.”

Career cushioning doesn’t show up in teams where people feel they’re moving forward, it shows up where people feel stuck.

Leaders who focus on prevention, not policing, keep their best talent not because employees can’t leave but because they genuinely don’t want to.

Curiosity Beats Suspicion Every Time

Valentin Radu
CEO, Founder, Blogger, Speaker & Podcaster, Omniconvert

To address this, leaders should focus on creating an environment where employees feel genuinely valued and see opportunities for growth.

Start by having open, personalized conversations with your team members to understand their aspirations, concerns, and career goals.

Identify areas where their current role can align with their long-term ambitions and work to provide resources or projects that enhance those skills.

Transparency about company goals and how employees contribute to them fosters loyalty.

Invest in professional development programs to show a commitment to their growth.

Regularly recognize and reward contributions to make employees feel appreciated.

By proactively building trust and creating a culture of support, you can encourage retention and reduce the urge for employees to consider other opportunities.

Success lies in making your top talent feel motivated to grow with your business.

Personalized Growth Paths Kill Cushioning

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