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In Conversation With Nicholas Wyman

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In Conversation With

Nicholas Wyman

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Attract, Retail & Develop: Shaping a Skilled Workforce for the Future

Hi Nicholas, thank you for joining us! Before we dive into “Attract, Retain & Develop”, please tell us about yourself and your current role.

Nicholas Wyman:

Thank you, it’s great to be here.

I’m Nicholas Wyman, a workforce practitioner and CEO of the Institute for Workplace Skills & Innovation America, where I focus on building skills-based career pathways that connect people to meaningful employment.

My work sits at the intersection of business, education, and public policy, helping employers solve talent shortages while creating opportunities for individuals. Over the past two decades, I’ve worked with employers across industries, and both private companies and government agencies, to rethink how they attract, develop, and retain talent.

What drives me is the belief that talent is universal, but opportunity is not. Employers have a powerful role to play in closing that gap.

What’s the origin story for your latest book, Attract Retain & Develop: Shaping a Skilled Workforce for the Future? How did it evolve from an idea to a tangible title? Tell us more about this journey.

 

Nicholas Wyman:

The idea for my latest book came directly from the frustrations I was hearing from employers everywhere. They were struggling to find talent, yet often overlooking capable people because of outdated hiring practices.

I realized there wasn’t a practical playbook that combined real-world workforce strategies with leadership and culture in a way that business leaders could immediately apply.

The book evolved over several years as I gathered case studies, tested ideas through our programs, and refined what actually works in practice.

My goal was to create something actionable rather than that leaders could use to build resilient, future-ready teams.

Your book argues that traditional hiring models are outdated. What specifically is broken in the way most organizations recruit today, and what mindset shift do HR leaders need to make first to truly “disrupt” their approach?

 

Nicholas Wyman:

The biggest problem is that many organizations hire based on traditional proxies for talent, like degrees, credentials, and job titles, instead of actual capability.

This approach unintentionally filters out incredible candidates who have the skills but not the traditional ‘pedigree’. It also slows hiring and contributes to persistent talent shortages.

The mindset shift is moving from credential-based hiring to skills-based hiring, asking, “What can this person do, and how can they grow?” rather than “Where did they go to school?”

Once leaders make that shift, they open the door to a much broader, more capable talent pool.

Your own career path, from chef to global workforce practitioner, is unconventional. How did that experience shape your philosophy on talent, and what can employers learn from non-linear career journeys when evaluating candidates?

 

Nicholas Wyman:

Starting my career as a chef taught me things that you can’t learn from a text book: soft skills like time management, communication and team-building, and critical thinking. Kitchens are performance-based environments, you either deliver or you don’t, and that shaped how I view talent.

My transition into workforce development reinforced that many of the most capable people willing to take initiative and problem-solve come from non-traditional backgrounds. Employers who overlook non-linear career paths miss out on adaptable, resilient, and highly motivated individuals.

Today’s workforce is far more dynamic, and hiring practices need to reflect that reality.

Through your work with the Institute for Workplace Skills & Innovation America, you’ve helped create thousands of skills-based career pathways, including apprenticeships for people with disabilities. What lessons from those programs can HR leaders apply to build more inclusive and effective talent pipelines?

 

Nicholas Wyman:

One of the biggest lessons is that inclusive hiring isn’t charity, it’s actually smart business with a proven ROI for both individual businesses and for the economy, and our society, at large.

When employers focus on skills and provide structured pathways like apprenticeships, they uncover talent that was previously overlooked. We’ve seen firsthand that with the right support and mentorship, individuals thrive and become highly loyal, high-performing employees.

Another key lesson is that partnerships matter. It’s key to work with community organizations and training providers, as that reduces the burden on employers. Inclusion expands your talent pool and strengthens your organization at the same time.

Many employers are concerned about automation and AI reshaping jobs. Based on your research and workforce experience, what skills should organizations be prioritizing now to future-proof both their workforce and their business?

 

Nicholas Wyman:

AI is transforming work, but the real challenge that comes with utilizing this technology is ensuring trust, good judgment, and human capability. The risk isn’t just that AI will replace tasks, but that people may over-rely on it without critical thinking.

That means the most important skills are human skills: adaptability, communication, ethical judgment, and problem-solving. Technical literacy is important, but the ability to question, interpret, and apply technology responsibly is what creates value.

Organizations that invest in these durable human skills will be far better positioned to navigate whatever comes next.

As an author, what are 3 other books you’d recommend to our audience? Why?

Nicholas Wyman:

As someone who works at the intersection of workforce strategy, business performance, and human capability, I tend to look beyond mainstream HR titles. Talent systems rarely fail because of policy. They fail because of behavior, stress, culture, and leadership blind spots.

Three books that have shaped my thinking:

Atomic Habits by James Clear

Clear’s central argument is simple: outcomes are driven by systems, not willpower. That applies directly to organizations. Engagement, productivity, and inclusion are the result of repeated behaviors reinforced over time. If leaders want change, they must design better systems and reward the right daily actions. Culture is not a slogan. It is an institutionalized habit.

The Mindbody Prescription by John Sarno

This book explores how chronic stress manifests physically. In organizations, that same stress shows up as burnout, disengagement, and turnover. Too many workplaces wear chronic pressure as a badge of honor. It is not. It is a performance tax. Sustainable output requires healthier environments and leaders who understand the cost of hidden strain.

The Gifts of Imperfection by Brené Brown

Brown’s work on vulnerability and courage is ultimately about trust. And trust drives performance. Innovation, accountability, and retention depend on psychological safety. High standards and empathy are not opposites. The best organizations combine both. When people feel safe to speak up and grow, performance follows.

For me, workforce strategy is not just about hiring models or talent pipelines. It is about energy, resilience, and behavior at scale. Organizations that understand that outperform those that treat talent as a transactional process.

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Author of Attract, Retain & Develop, Nicholas “Nick” Wyman began his career as an award-winning chef. Transitioning from the culinary arts to the business world, Nick leveraged his leadership experience to become a globally recognized workforce practitioner. As the CEO of the Institute for Workplace Skills and Innovation Group (IWSI), he redefines career pathways, transforming how the modern world views skills and success. Under his leadership, IWSI has ignited over twenty thousand skill-based career paths. Nick is the author of two books and contributes to Forbes, Fast Company, the MIT Press Journal, and CNBC.

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Women’s History Month Series – In Conversation with Stephanie Davis Neill

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HR Spotlight Interview

Stephanie Davis Neill

Women's History Month Interview Series

In Conversation with Stephanie Davis Neill

Our special guest today is Stephanie Davis Neill, Chief Operating Officer at Click Boarding. With over 25 years of leadership experience spanning agile startups to Fortune-ranked companies, Stephanie brings a uniquely structural perspective to HR technology. A lifelong operator and Georgia Tech graduate with deep expertise in Lean/Six Sigma methodologies, she proves that the most effective way to solve complex people problems—such as employee engagement and workload reduction—is through robust, repeatable processes.

In this episode, Stephanie shares her playbook for protecting her peace through structural clarity, explains why she describes the 2026 workforce as “cautious,” and offers critical advice on how to strategically pivot after surviving the “Glass Cliff.”

Thank you for joining us, Stephanie! We’ve heard it said that ‘Nobody plans to go into HR; they are usually dragged into it because they are good at listening.’ Is that true for you? What was the specific moment you realized, ‘Oh, I’m actually meant to do this’?

Stephanie Davis Neill:

As a lifelong operator, I still find myself surprised when I describe my role in HR Technology.  I wasn’t initially sure it was the right fit until I thought about the challenges we solve, like engagement, accelerating readiness to work, and workload reduction for support teams and I thought, “this is what I have been doing my whole career!”. It’s true, when you really do pay attention, you can often clearly see the way forward.

You’ve worked in everything from furniture retail to global logistics. What have you learned about transformation?

Stephanie Davis Neill:

The fundamentals of managing transformation remain remarkably consistent from a startup to the Fortune 100: it is always about people and process. Whether you are hiring seasonal labor or highly specialized skill sets, transformation isn’t about the industry; it’s about facilitating how people and tools come together to deliver something amazing.

If you could describe the current ‘mood’ of the workforce in 2026 using just one word, what would it be? Why?

Stephanie Davis Neill:

Cautious.

As the pace of change continues to accelerate, particularly with macro economic pressures, adoption of AI, and shifts in company remote work policies, many employees remain uncertain about what comes next.  I suspect this is directly impacting the motivation for risk taking and job mobility.

We often talk about the ‘Glass Ceiling,’ but lately, the conversation has shifted to the ‘Glass Cliff’, where women are promoted to leadership only during times of crisis. Have you ever felt that pressure to be the ‘fixer’ in a broken system?

Stephanie Davis Neill:

Shining during a time of crisis can be a great way to get noticed and to accelerate leadership opportunities. I challenge women who rise during these periods to pivot quickly when the crisis is over to demonstrate strategic leadership. It can be very easy to fall into the trap of being the go-to person in every crisis. I once had responsibility for literal crisis management (weather and other disaster response functions) and because it ran so smoothly, it stayed with my team for several years instead of appropriately moving to the risk management team. After that, I learned to not only fight for what I wanted to manage, but also for passing along what I shouldn’t.

HR professionals are the ‘first responders’ of the corporate world, handling grief, layoffs, and conflict. What is your specific protocol for protecting your own peace after a day of absorbing everyone else’s stress?

Stephanie Davis Neill:

My protocol involves creating repeatable systems and routines that “anchor” the work. I rely on fixed organizational process, like our bi-weekly product and client discussions, to ensure everyone is on the same page and working toward the same priorities. This structural clarity helps prevent the “chaos” of absorbing everyone else’s stress because we have a clear, shared path forward.

HR is often described as a thankless job—you’re the villain when things go wrong and invisible when things go right. Why do you stay? What is the specific moment that reminds you ‘This is why I do this’?

Stephanie Davis Neill:

I stay because I love helping facilitate how people, tools, and resources come together to deliver something amazing. The “why” becomes very clear when you see the personal connection our teams make with clients. We recently finished a large implementation where the client didn’t want to let their consultant go and even asked for his personal information just to send a thank-you note. Hearing that our team has made that kind of impact, even at the very beginning of a partnership, is incredibly exciting.

“Transformation isn’t about the industry; it’s about facilitating how people and tools come together to deliver something amazing.”

That operational philosophy from Stephanie Davis Neill is a powerful reminder that at the core of every successful business transformation, the fundamentals of people and process remain entirely constant.

A huge thank you to Stephanie for sharing her expertise and proving that the best HR strategies are built on solid operational foundations.

As COO, Stephanie Davis Neill leads efforts to retain and grow Click Boarding’s customer base while optimizing operations for scalable growth. With over 25 years of experience in operations across startups, private-equity-backed firms, and Fortune-ranked companies, she is a proven change leader, most recently serving as VP of Customer Success & Direct Sales at Aaron’s. Passionate about building efficient processes, she applies Lean/Six Sigma methodologies to drive strategic problem-solving and cross-functional collaboration. Her expertise spans B2B account management, customer experience, and service management. A Georgia Tech graduate, Stephanie enjoys traveling and volunteering when not at home in Marietta, Georgia, with her family and rescue dog, Peanut.

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Women’s History Month Series – In Conversation with Advita Patel

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HR Spotlight Interview

Advita Patel

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In Conversation with Advita Patel

Joining us is Advita Patel, an award-winning business communications consultant, professional confidence expert, and the 2025 President of the Chartered Institute of Public Relations. As the founder of CommsRebel and co-founder of A Leader Like Me, Advita specializes in building inclusive, high-performing environments. She is also the host of the Decoding Confidence podcast, with her highly anticipated book of the same name launching in May 2026.

In this interview, Advita breaks down the exhaustion of the modern workforce, the amplified pressures of the “Glass Cliff” for women of color, and why true empathy in leadership requires active practice, not just assumption. From setting non-negotiable boundaries to challenging the dangerous reliance on “gut feeling” in hiring, Advita provides a masterclass in leading with clarity and intention.

Thank you for joining us, Advita! If you could describe the current ‘mood’ of the workforce in 2026 using just one word, what would it be? Why?

Advita Patel:

Tired. The last six years have felt relentless for many people: constant change, new technology, economic uncertainty, and very little space to breathe or reflect. That’s why taking charge of the things we can control and prioritising our wellbeing matters more than ever. When you’re running on empty, you simply can’t show up properly for anyone else.

We often talk about the ‘Glass Ceiling,’ but lately, the conversation has shifted to the ‘Glass Cliff’, where women are promoted to leadership only during times of crisis. Have you ever felt that pressure to be the ‘fixer’ in a broken system?

Advita Patel:

Absolutely, and not just as a woman but also as a woman of colour, that pressure is amplified. There’s this unspoken expectation that you have to constantly prove yourself, outperform, and somehow fix what others couldn’t. You’re pitted against each other, and you genuinely believe you need to give twice as much just to be seen as half as capable. What makes it worse is that when you can’t fix a broken system, you internalise it as personal failure. It’s no wonder so many women burn out.

HR professionals are the ‘first responders’ of the corporate world, handling grief, layoffs, and conflict. What is your specific protocol for protecting your own peace after a day of absorbing everyone else’s stress?

Advita Patel:

Strong boundaries, and I don’t negotiate on them. My laptop stays in my office, and I don’t check anything work-related after 6pm. I know how tempting it is, especially when there’s an on-going issue. But if you don’t model your own boundaries, you can’t expect others to respect them either. Burning yourself out helps no one, and the long-term cost of not protecting yourself can be devastating.

Without naming names, tell us about a time you had to deliver tough news (a termination, a restructuring) that actually taught you something profound about leadership or empathy.

Advita Patel:

I was once asked to send out a restructure email just before a Bank Holiday weekend. The thinking was that it would get ahead of the rumours without leadership having to field questions straight away. I pushed back. Dropping news like that with no context, right before people disconnect for a long weekend, is unfair and causes unnecessary anxiety. The response from senior leadership? “Everyone’s an adult, they’ll understand.” That moment crystallised something important for me: empathy isn’t instinctive for everyone. It has to be actively practised, not assumed.

Have you ever felt pressure to soften your delivery or ‘be nice’ in a way that male counterparts aren’t? How do you balance empathy with the need to be firm on policy?

Advita Patel:

Yes. I was told my tone came across as aloof and cold, which genuinely surprised me because warmth is a big part of who I am. But I noticed the feedback only surfaced when I challenged or disagreed with something, and that told me a lot. Real empathy isn’t about backing down or over-softening to avoid discomfort. It’s about recognising that people aren’t difficult, they’re just different. It means understanding someone’s perspective without needing to agree with it, and holding your position without becoming defensive. Giving people space to be heard is empathy. Disappearing into agreeableness is not.

The age-old tension is between ‘People’ and ‘Profits.’ Can you share a specific example where you had to fight for a budget or a benefit that didn’t have an immediate ROI, but you knew was critical for the culture?

Advita Patel:

How to fight for a budget without a clear ROI? That’s practically a book I could write. In the work I do, it’s rarely possible to show an immediate return because it forms part of a much bigger picture. So, alongside attaching metrics to spend, I always talk about the consequences of not doing something, not just what success looks like if we do. That reframe gives budget holders the full picture rather than just our version of it.

We talk a lot about ‘gut feeling’ in hiring. How are you using data to challenge your own biases, or the biases of hiring managers, when it comes to promoting women and underrepresented talent?

Advita Patel:

Gut feeling is based on your lived experiences. And if your lived experiences have been sheltered and you haven’t had much interaction with people who are different from you, the bias you show in your gut will be aligned to your version of what good looks like. That’s why so many teams and boards have similar faces. This, in many cases, isn’t intentional. People will generally believe they have hired the best. But what they may not realise is that they are measuring best to their personal criteria. And if someone who is different or looks different is being interviewed, the natural reaction is that they are not a good fit. This is why data and evidence are needed to help slow your thinking down and help you tap into your reflective side of the brain.

If you could ban one corporate buzzword forever, what would it be?

Advita Patel:

Leverage. We don’t use that word at home, in conversation, in real life. I genuinely have no idea why it became so embedded in workplace language.

“Giving people space to be heard is empathy. Disappearing into agreeableness is not.”

That powerful distinction from Advita Patel fundamentally challenges how women are often conditioned to operate in corporate spaces. Her insights remind us that true leadership isn’t about fixing fundamentally broken systems at the expense of our own well-being; it is about establishing non-negotiable boundaries and using data to dismantle the biases hidden within our “gut feelings.”

A huge thank you to Advita for her candor and for giving us practical tools to protect our peace while driving meaningful organizational change.

Advita Patel is an award winning business communications consultant and professional confidence expert. She is the founder of CommsRebel, a consultancy supporting organisations to build inclusive, high performing workplace cultures, and the co-founder of A Leader Like Me, an international agency focused on inclusive leadership and employee experience. Advita is the host of the Decoding Confidence podcast, which explores confidence at work through honest conversation and practical insight. Her forthcoming book, Decoding Confidence, will be published in May 2026. An international speaker and award winning podcaster, Advita regularly speaks on confidence, leadership, inclusion, and communications. In 2025, she was the President of the Chartered Institute of Public Relations in 2025.

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Employee Leave Isn’t the Problem. The Real Issue Is Lack of Planning.

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March 09, 2026

Employee Leave Isn’t the Problem. The Real Issue Is Lack of Planning.

By Rachel Shaw

Leave management is one of the most frustrating and most predictable parts of human resources.

And that is exactly the problem.

Employers often feel caught off guard when an employee needs time away from work for a medical condition, family care or a personal matter. The process becomes emotional, reactive and operationally disruptive. But the reality is this: over the course of any employee’s tenure, leave is not an exception. It is an inevitability.

Every workforce will experience illness, injury, pregnancy, caregiving needs, mental health events and life transitions. These are not outliers. They are part of the employee lifecycle. Yet many organizations still treat leave as a one-off rather than building systems that anticipate it.

The issue is not that employees need leave. The issue is that too many organizations are not designed to handle it well when it comes up.

  • Leave Management Is a Systems Issue

Most employers have compliance mechanisms in place. They know how to issue an FMLA notice or respond to a doctor’s note. But compliance alone is not a strategy.

Where organizations struggle is in the absence of a clear, coordinated leave management program that addresses:

  • how leave is requested and tracked
  • how coverage is handled operationally
  • how supervisors respond in the moment
  • how leave interacts with ADA obligations and workplace accommodations
  • how employees are supported during and after the leave period

Without this infrastructure, every leave request becomes a disruption instead of a manageable workflow.

Proactive employers recognize that leave is a predictable operational reality and build programming around it.

  • Planning Reduces Stress for Everyone

When employers take the time to define their leave processes in advance, the experience changes dramatically.

Supervisors are no longer guessing what to do or reacting emotionally in the moment. HR is not reinventing the wheel with every request. Employees are not left feeling guilty, unsupported, or confused about their rights and responsibilities.

Clear programming allows organizations to respond consistently and with confidence. That includes:

  • clear expectations for how and when employees request leave
  • defined processes for job coverage and workload redistribution
  • structured communication points during leave
  • thoughtful return to work practices that support reintegration

This is not about eliminating the operational impact of leave. It is about managing it intentionally.

  • Flexibility Where It Works

One of the most effective ways to reduce the strain of leave is through thoughtful flexibility.

In some environments, that may mean remote work or modified schedules. In others, particularly in the public sector, healthcare or frontline environments, it may mean shift swapping, modified assignments, or creative scheduling.

Not every role can be done from home. But every organization can evaluate where flexibility is possible.

When employees can adjust schedules for medical appointments or caregiving needs without immediately moving into formal leave status, organizations often see reduced absenteeism and improved morale.

Flexibility, when structured well, becomes a pressure valve that supports both operations and employees.

  • Supervisor Frustration and the Culture of Leave

One of the most significant risks in leave management is not legal. It is cultural.

Supervisors often carry the operational burden when someone is out. That burden can lead to frustration, especially when leaves are extended, intermittent or complex.

Left unaddressed, that frustration can show up in subtle but damaging ways such as tone, comments, skepticism  or disengagement. Employees quickly pick up on this and it erodes trust.

At the same time, employers are right to be attentive to potential misuse. That is part of good program management.

The solution is not to ignore concerns or to assume the worst. It is to train supervisors to operate with professional judgment, to follow process, avoid assumptions, document appropriately, and escalate concerns through the proper HR channels rather than reacting emotionally.

Employees should not feel like they are doing something wrong when they use a benefit or protection they are legally entitled to.

The way supervisors respond in these moments defines the organization’s culture far more than any written policy.

  • ADA and the Continuation of the Conversation

Another common breakdown point is what happens when statutory leave ends.

When FMLA or state leave entitlements are exhausted, the conversation is not necessarily over. Employers may have additional obligations under the Americans with Disabilities Act to evaluate whether additional leave or other workplace accommodations are reasonable.

Too often, organizations treat the end of FMLA as the end of the process.

In reality, it is often the beginning of a different conversation, one that requires individualized assessment, interactive dialogue and thoughtful decision-making.

Organizations that build a coordinated ADA and leave management program, which I often refer to as programming the interactive process, are far better positioned to navigate these transitions consistently and defensibly.

  • Supporting Employees, Not Just Complying with the Law

At its core, leave management is not just a compliance function. It is a human one.

Employees request leave at some of the most difficult moments in their lives: a cancer diagnosis, a complicated pregnancy, a parent in decline, a mental health crisis or recovery from injury.

How an organization responds in these moments matters.

Employers that approach leave with clarity, structure and empathy see measurable benefits: higher engagement, stronger retention and increased trust in leadership.

Those that operate in crisis mode often see the opposite: burnout, resentment and turnover.

  • Mental Health and the Evolving Workforce

Mental health-related leave requests continue to rise across industries.

Employees are more willing to seek support, but they are still highly sensitive to how those requests are received. Stigma has not disappeared. It has just become quieter.

Supervisors need guidance on recognizing potential leave triggers, responding without prying into protected medical information and connecting employees with HR and available resources.

Organizations that treat mental health with the same seriousness and neutrality as physical health create a safer and more stable workplace for everyone.

  • The Cost of Not Planning

The cost of poor leave management extends beyond legal exposure.

It shows up in:

  • operational disruption
  • supervisor burnout
  • inconsistent decision making
  • employee disengagement
  • avoidable turnover

Replacing experienced employees is expensive. More importantly, it disrupts the organization’s continuity and culture.

When employees see that their colleagues are treated with fairness, respect and professionalism during leave, it reinforces their trust in the organization.

  • A Final Thought

Leave is not the problem.

The absence of planning is.

Organizations that move from reactive response to intentional design, build clear processes, train supervisors and align ADA and leave programming, are able to manage leave in a way that supports both operations and people.

That is the goal.

Not perfection. Not zero disruption.

But a workplace where employees can navigate life’s inevitable challenges without fear and where employers can respond with consistency, clarity and care.

That is what good leave management looks like.

About the Author

Rachel Shaw, founder of Rachel Shaw Inc., is a nationally recognized ADA and leave management expert and sought-after speaker known for helping organizations turn legal compliance into operational strength. With more than two decades of experience, she designs in-house systems that allow employers to manage accommodations with both legal precision and human-centered leadership. She is the creator of the ADA Interactive Process Hallway® protocol, now used by thousands of organizations to manage disability accommodation requests confidently, consistently, and with care.

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Attract Retain & Develop – Nicholas Wyman

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ATTRACT RETAIN & DEVELOP

Shaping a Skilled Workforce for the Future

– NICHOLAS WYMAN

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New book by Workforce Specialist Nicholas Wyman offers a fresh approach to Leadership and Skills-Based Learning for the future.

Key Takeaways

Disrupt

Break free from outdated hiring models and embrace bold, game-changing workforce strategies.

Thrive

Create a high-performance culture where employees feel valued, motivated, and driven to succeed.

Evolve

Reskill, adapt, and future-proof your workforce to stay competitive in an era of rapid change.

Connect

Attract top talent and build unstoppable teams by fostering deep engagement and visionary leadership.

PRIMARY AUDIENCE

  • Business owner
  • Hiring Managers
  • HR Professionals
  • Entrepreneurs

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

NICHOLAS WYMAN

Nicholas “Nick” Wyman began his career as an award-winning chef. Transitioning from the culinary arts to the business world, Nick leveraged his leadership experience to become a globally recognized workforce practitioner.

As the CEO of the Institute for Workplace Skills and Innovation Group (IWSI), he redefines career pathways, transforming how the modern world views skills and success.

Under his leadership, IWSI has ignited over twenty thousand skill-based career paths. Nick is the author of two books and contributes to Forbes, Fast Company, the MIT Press Journal, and CNBC.

Short Thesis

In today’s volatile job market, marked by talent shortages, automation, and evolving employee expectations, workforce expert Nicholas Wyman delivers a timely guide for business leaders in Attract, Retain & Develop. Wyman offers practical, forward-thinking strategies to help organizations future-proof their workforce and build thriving workplaces. Drawing on decades of experience in workforce education and skills development, including his leadership of IWSI America, Wyman challenges outdated hiring models and presents a results-driven approach to finding, training, and retaining top talent. Through real-world case studies and expert insights, he provides a clear blueprint for sustainable workforce success.

Excerpt

Over the decades my journey has taken me from being an award-winning chef to leading the international Institute for Workplace Skills and Innovation (IWSI), where I’ve built up expertise in job skills training. Our group employs eight hundred apprentices at any given time and has successfully graduated more than 20,000 others. We have a network of more than three hundred small, medium, and large employer partners. Although I hung up my apron a few years back, I still keep in touch with my culinary roots. My philosophy today leans toward farm-to-table, focusing on organic, locally sourced ingredients, and I try to live a lifestyle that’s clean and healthy.

My goal here has been to not create yet another “formula” book on the workings of the workplace. And just to be up-front, I’m no McKinsey-style management guide. You won’t find robotic, data-driven analysis or structured methodologies here. What you will find are practical ideas, including some key ingredients such as mentoring, mastering change
in a tech-driven world, and building a resilient, innovative workforce culture. To this I have mixed in (hopefully) some entrepreneurial hustle (the same hustle that gets startups off the ground).

This book is a culmination of my diverse (some say crazy) background. From culinary to corporate, talent development to embracing change, my aim is to offer fresh insights into the workplace. Those insights often take a different track from the age-old “get into a good college” mentality. Not that I have anything against college students. It’s just that in the modern age, there are many options to consider. As a hiring manager or business owner, you need to have a keen awareness of who’s out there seeking employment and what they can offer your team. You need to know how you will captivate them and demonstrate why you want them on your team—and how you will entice them to stick around for a while.

Join me on a journey as we explore innovative strategies, redefining the future of work. The path for which I advocate is a path less traveled, but one rich with creative solutions and ideas that can lead to impactful change.

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Learning or Cheap Labor? HR Experts Define the Internship Dealbreakers

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Learning or Cheap Labor? HR Experts Define the Internship Dealbreakers

In the high-stakes world of internships—where every week is a chance to build skills, networks, and credibility—a nagging doubt can quietly grow: is this experience truly worth my time, or am I just filling a seat? 

On HRSpotlight, seasoned CEOs, founders, attorneys, physicians, and HR experts pull back the curtain on the subtle (and not-so-subtle) warning signs that signal an internship has crossed from growth opportunity into wasted potential. 

From vague or absent plans that leave interns on endless grunt work, to managers who ghost, teams that isolate rather than include, criticism without guidance, and environments that punish curiosity or ethical unease—these leaders share the unmistakable red flags that prompt even the most patient interns to walk away. 

Their collective wisdom underscores a powerful truth: a great internship stretches you, teaches you, and opens doors; anything less isn’t an investment in your future—it’s a detour you can choose to end. 

Discover the telltale signs that protect your time and energy. 

Read on!

Oksana Lukash
Owner, People, Culture, You, LLC

A clear red flag for any intern is when the company has no real plan for your experience.

If the manager can’t explain what you’ll be doing, why it matters, or how your work contributes to the business, you’ll likely spend your time doing random tasks that teach you nothing.

A strong internship should have meaningful projects with a clear beginning and end, consistent support, and real opportunities to learn.

You should be building relationships, expanding your network, and getting exposure to leaders and executives.

There should be chances to present your work, receive feedback, and understand the impact you made.

You should also have structured ways to connect with other interns, and ideally, guidance on your resume, LinkedIn profile, and professional development.

If none of this exists and you’re not growing, gaining skills, or getting true support, it’s a sign to walk away.

Internship Without Purpose? Exit Fast

Jonathan F. Marshall
Attorney, The Law Offices of Jonathan F. Marshall

A firm that shuts you out is your signal to leave. If the attorneys don’t teach, don’t explain, and don’t bother giving you real work, you’re wasting time.

Interns learn by being pulled into the process. If you’re treated like a coat rack, that won’t happen.

Watch how the office handles ethics. If you’re told to hide information, bend a rule, or push something you know isn’t right, walk out.

You can’t rebuild trust once it’s gone, and this field depends on it.

Pay attention to the work they hand you. Research, drafting, and observing court are normal. Endless errands, phone duty, and busywork with zero exposure aren’t. That means they don’t plan on teaching you anything.

If you’re not learning, not included, and not respected, that internship’s done.

No Inclusion and Shaky Ethics Mean Exit

Chris Lowe
CEO, Next Step House Buyers

Here’s a red flag: an intern turns in work and gets nothing back, or some confusing criticism with no actual advice.

I’ve watched new hires get stuck and then quit because they can’t get better in that environment.

If that’s happening, it’s not your fault. Just go find a team that will actually help you grow.

No Useful Feedback Means Find Another Team

Ryan Dosenberry
CEO, Crushing REI

When communication inside a company is a mess and you don’t know what you’re aiming for, that’s a problem.

I once saw an intern quit a sales company because nobody knew what to prioritize and there was no clear feedback.

If you feel lost and no one is setting direction, you can’t grow there. You’re just stuck

Chaotic Teams with No Direction Waste Time

Amit Gupta
Physician, Ayurveda Practitioner & Founder, CureNatural

A clear red flag for an intern, when they should consider bailing on an internship is when they’re treated like labor, not a learner and contributor.

If all they’re doing is grunt work, with zero context, zero mentorship, and zero opportunity to grow, that’s not an internship-that’s just cheap staffing with a fancy title.

The whole point of an internship is exposure: to projects, thinking, processes, and people who actually teach you something.

If an intern’s questions are getting brushed off, if no one explains the “why” behind the tasks, or if every day feels like busy work in a vacuum, that’s a sign the company never intended to invest in them.

My advice is simple:

If an internship gives you tasks, not understanding; output, not insight; work, not learning – leave.
Internships should be opening doors, not keeping you in a corner editing PowerPoint that nobody will remember.

A good internship should stretch your skills and teach you a job skill or trade. Recognize this early.

Grunt Work Without Insight Means Leave

AJ Mizes
CEO & Founder, The Human Reach

The clearest red flag is when you are consistently denied access to the room where decisions happen.

If your work consists solely of isolated tasks and you are not invited to listen in on team meetings, project kick-offs, or client calls, it is a problem.

An internship’s value comes from seeing how a business operates, not just performing tasks in a vacuum.

You should be absorbing how professionals think, communicate, and solve problems.

A company that truly invests in interns provides a window into their world.

They understand that the experience is just as important as the output.

If you’re kept at arm’s length, it signals they view you as temporary labor, not a potential future hire worth developing.

Your goal is to learn and build connections.

If the internship prevents both, it’s not serving its purpose for you.

Shut Doors and Isolation Mean No Internship

Selene Luk
Customer Care manager, Spanish Cultural Association of Hong Kong

Here’s what I’ve learned. If an intern’s concerns get brushed aside and mistakes just bring criticism, nobody feels safe enough to try. I’ve seen it firsthand.

A good team lets you mess up and learn from it.

If you’re anxious about asking questions, that’s not the right place for you.

Just start looking elsewhere.

Criticism Without Support Means Move On

Blake DeWitt
CEO, DeWitt Pharma

As a CEO who works with many early-career professionals, I have observed the indications that the intern is not growing anymore due to the experience.

The greatest red flag is an event where the learning does not commence.

When the intern takes several weeks, and he/she is still performing basic duties without receiving actual guidance, it is normally an indication that the company is not ready to develop such individuals.

The best internship must provide times of encouragement and opportunities to develop confidence.

The absence of these elements makes the experience no longer meaningful.

The other indication is when the questions are addressed as a problem.

When the interest of an intern is ignored or shut down, it is quite evident that that is no place to cultivate.

When people are respected and encouraged, they learn better than when they are ignored.

Early identification of such trends will enable the interns to guard their time and pursue those opportunities that stand any chance of being invested in.

Stalled Growth and Punished Curiosity Mean Exit

Graham Bennett
COO, Bennett Awards

Here’s how I know it’s time to leave.

You’re guessing what your job even is, and no one explains the plan.

I once saw interns work for weeks on projects that went nowhere because they got zero guidance.

If you feel like you’re working in a vacuum and your boss is a ghost, go find a place where people actually show up and help you do work that matters.

Ghost Managers and Aimless Projects? Leave

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