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Women’s History Month Series – In Conversation with Advita Patel

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Advita Patel

Women's History Month Interview Series

In Conversation with Advita Patel

Joining us is Advita Patel, an award-winning business communications consultant, professional confidence expert, and the 2025 President of the Chartered Institute of Public Relations. As the founder of CommsRebel and co-founder of A Leader Like Me, Advita specializes in building inclusive, high-performing environments. She is also the host of the Decoding Confidence podcast, with her highly anticipated book of the same name launching in May 2026.

In this interview, Advita breaks down the exhaustion of the modern workforce, the amplified pressures of the “Glass Cliff” for women of color, and why true empathy in leadership requires active practice, not just assumption. From setting non-negotiable boundaries to challenging the dangerous reliance on “gut feeling” in hiring, Advita provides a masterclass in leading with clarity and intention.

Thank you for joining us, Advita! If you could describe the current ‘mood’ of the workforce in 2026 using just one word, what would it be? Why?

Advita Patel:

Tired. The last six years have felt relentless for many people: constant change, new technology, economic uncertainty, and very little space to breathe or reflect. That’s why taking charge of the things we can control and prioritising our wellbeing matters more than ever. When you’re running on empty, you simply can’t show up properly for anyone else.

We often talk about the ‘Glass Ceiling,’ but lately, the conversation has shifted to the ‘Glass Cliff’, where women are promoted to leadership only during times of crisis. Have you ever felt that pressure to be the ‘fixer’ in a broken system?

Advita Patel:

Absolutely, and not just as a woman but also as a woman of colour, that pressure is amplified. There’s this unspoken expectation that you have to constantly prove yourself, outperform, and somehow fix what others couldn’t. You’re pitted against each other, and you genuinely believe you need to give twice as much just to be seen as half as capable. What makes it worse is that when you can’t fix a broken system, you internalise it as personal failure. It’s no wonder so many women burn out.

HR professionals are the ‘first responders’ of the corporate world, handling grief, layoffs, and conflict. What is your specific protocol for protecting your own peace after a day of absorbing everyone else’s stress?

Advita Patel:

Strong boundaries, and I don’t negotiate on them. My laptop stays in my office, and I don’t check anything work-related after 6pm. I know how tempting it is, especially when there’s an on-going issue. But if you don’t model your own boundaries, you can’t expect others to respect them either. Burning yourself out helps no one, and the long-term cost of not protecting yourself can be devastating.

Without naming names, tell us about a time you had to deliver tough news (a termination, a restructuring) that actually taught you something profound about leadership or empathy.

Advita Patel:

I was once asked to send out a restructure email just before a Bank Holiday weekend. The thinking was that it would get ahead of the rumours without leadership having to field questions straight away. I pushed back. Dropping news like that with no context, right before people disconnect for a long weekend, is unfair and causes unnecessary anxiety. The response from senior leadership? “Everyone’s an adult, they’ll understand.” That moment crystallised something important for me: empathy isn’t instinctive for everyone. It has to be actively practised, not assumed.

Have you ever felt pressure to soften your delivery or ‘be nice’ in a way that male counterparts aren’t? How do you balance empathy with the need to be firm on policy?

Advita Patel:

Yes. I was told my tone came across as aloof and cold, which genuinely surprised me because warmth is a big part of who I am. But I noticed the feedback only surfaced when I challenged or disagreed with something, and that told me a lot. Real empathy isn’t about backing down or over-softening to avoid discomfort. It’s about recognising that people aren’t difficult, they’re just different. It means understanding someone’s perspective without needing to agree with it, and holding your position without becoming defensive. Giving people space to be heard is empathy. Disappearing into agreeableness is not.

The age-old tension is between ‘People’ and ‘Profits.’ Can you share a specific example where you had to fight for a budget or a benefit that didn’t have an immediate ROI, but you knew was critical for the culture?

Advita Patel:

How to fight for a budget without a clear ROI? That’s practically a book I could write. In the work I do, it’s rarely possible to show an immediate return because it forms part of a much bigger picture. So, alongside attaching metrics to spend, I always talk about the consequences of not doing something, not just what success looks like if we do. That reframe gives budget holders the full picture rather than just our version of it.

We talk a lot about ‘gut feeling’ in hiring. How are you using data to challenge your own biases, or the biases of hiring managers, when it comes to promoting women and underrepresented talent?

Advita Patel:

Gut feeling is based on your lived experiences. And if your lived experiences have been sheltered and you haven’t had much interaction with people who are different from you, the bias you show in your gut will be aligned to your version of what good looks like. That’s why so many teams and boards have similar faces. This, in many cases, isn’t intentional. People will generally believe they have hired the best. But what they may not realise is that they are measuring best to their personal criteria. And if someone who is different or looks different is being interviewed, the natural reaction is that they are not a good fit. This is why data and evidence are needed to help slow your thinking down and help you tap into your reflective side of the brain.

If you could ban one corporate buzzword forever, what would it be?

Advita Patel:

Leverage. We don’t use that word at home, in conversation, in real life. I genuinely have no idea why it became so embedded in workplace language.

“Giving people space to be heard is empathy. Disappearing into agreeableness is not.”

That powerful distinction from Advita Patel fundamentally challenges how women are often conditioned to operate in corporate spaces. Her insights remind us that true leadership isn’t about fixing fundamentally broken systems at the expense of our own well-being; it is about establishing non-negotiable boundaries and using data to dismantle the biases hidden within our “gut feelings.”

A huge thank you to Advita for her candor and for giving us practical tools to protect our peace while driving meaningful organizational change.

Advita Patel is an award winning business communications consultant and professional confidence expert. She is the founder of CommsRebel, a consultancy supporting organisations to build inclusive, high performing workplace cultures, and the co-founder of A Leader Like Me, an international agency focused on inclusive leadership and employee experience. Advita is the host of the Decoding Confidence podcast, which explores confidence at work through honest conversation and practical insight. Her forthcoming book, Decoding Confidence, will be published in May 2026. An international speaker and award winning podcaster, Advita regularly speaks on confidence, leadership, inclusion, and communications. In 2025, she was the President of the Chartered Institute of Public Relations in 2025.

 

 

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Employee Leave Isn’t the Problem. The Real Issue Is Lack of Planning.

March 09, 2026

Employee Leave Isn’t the Problem. The Real Issue Is Lack of Planning.

Leave management is one of the most frustrating and most predictable parts of human resources.

And that is exactly the problem.

Employers often feel caught off guard when an employee needs time away from work for a medical condition, family care or a personal matter. The process becomes emotional, reactive and operationally disruptive. But the reality is this: over the course of any employee’s tenure, leave is not an exception. It is an inevitability.

Every workforce will experience illness, injury, pregnancy, caregiving needs, mental health events and life transitions. These are not outliers. They are part of the employee lifecycle. Yet many organizations still treat leave as a one-off rather than building systems that anticipate it.

The issue is not that employees need leave. The issue is that too many organizations are not designed to handle it well when it comes up.

Most employers have compliance mechanisms in place. They know how to issue an FMLA notice or respond to a doctor’s note. But compliance alone is not a strategy.

Where organizations struggle is in the absence of a clear, coordinated leave management program that addresses:

  • how leave is requested and tracked
  • how coverage is handled operationally
  • how supervisors respond in the moment
  • how leave interacts with ADA obligations and workplace accommodations
  • how employees are supported during and after the leave period

Without this infrastructure, every leave request becomes a disruption instead of a manageable workflow.

Proactive employers recognize that leave is a predictable operational reality and build programming around it.

When employers take the time to define their leave processes in advance, the experience changes dramatically.

Supervisors are no longer guessing what to do or reacting emotionally in the moment. HR is not reinventing the wheel with every request. Employees are not left feeling guilty, unsupported, or confused about their rights and responsibilities.

Clear programming allows organizations to respond consistently and with confidence. That includes:

  • clear expectations for how and when employees request leave
  • defined processes for job coverage and workload redistribution
  • structured communication points during leave
  • thoughtful return to work practices that support reintegration

This is not about eliminating the operational impact of leave. It is about managing it intentionally.

One of the most effective ways to reduce the strain of leave is through thoughtful flexibility.

In some environments, that may mean remote work or modified schedules. In others, particularly in the public sector, healthcare or frontline environments, it may mean shift swapping, modified assignments, or creative scheduling.

Not every role can be done from home. But every organization can evaluate where flexibility is possible.

When employees can adjust schedules for medical appointments or caregiving needs without immediately moving into formal leave status, organizations often see reduced absenteeism and improved morale.

Flexibility, when structured well, becomes a pressure valve that supports both operations and employees.

One of the most significant risks in leave management is not legal. It is cultural.

Supervisors often carry the operational burden when someone is out. That burden can lead to frustration, especially when leaves are extended, intermittent or complex.

Left unaddressed, that frustration can show up in subtle but damaging ways such as tone, comments, skepticism  or disengagement. Employees quickly pick up on this and it erodes trust.

At the same time, employers are right to be attentive to potential misuse. That is part of good program management.

The solution is not to ignore concerns or to assume the worst. It is to train supervisors to operate with professional judgment, to follow process, avoid assumptions, document appropriately, and escalate concerns through the proper HR channels rather than reacting emotionally.

Employees should not feel like they are doing something wrong when they use a benefit or protection they are legally entitled to.

The way supervisors respond in these moments defines the organization’s culture far more than any written policy.

Another common breakdown point is what happens when statutory leave ends.

When FMLA or state leave entitlements are exhausted, the conversation is not necessarily over. Employers may have additional obligations under the Americans with Disabilities Act to evaluate whether additional leave or other workplace accommodations are reasonable.

Too often, organizations treat the end of FMLA as the end of the process.

In reality, it is often the beginning of a different conversation, one that requires individualized assessment, interactive dialogue and thoughtful decision-making.

Organizations that build a coordinated ADA and leave management program, which I often refer to as programming the interactive process, are far better positioned to navigate these transitions consistently and defensibly.

At its core, leave management is not just a compliance function. It is a human one.

Employees request leave at some of the most difficult moments in their lives: a cancer diagnosis, a complicated pregnancy, a parent in decline, a mental health crisis or recovery from injury.

How an organization responds in these moments matters.

Employers that approach leave with clarity, structure and empathy see measurable benefits: higher engagement, stronger retention and increased trust in leadership.

Those that operate in crisis mode often see the opposite: burnout, resentment and turnover.

Mental health-related leave requests continue to rise across industries.

Employees are more willing to seek support, but they are still highly sensitive to how those requests are received. Stigma has not disappeared. It has just become quieter.

Supervisors need guidance on recognizing potential leave triggers, responding without prying into protected medical information and connecting employees with HR and available resources.

Organizations that treat mental health with the same seriousness and neutrality as physical health create a safer and more stable workplace for everyone.

The cost of poor leave management extends beyond legal exposure.

It shows up in:

  • operational disruption
  • supervisor burnout
  • inconsistent decision making
  • employee disengagement
  • avoidable turnover

Replacing experienced employees is expensive. More importantly, it disrupts the organization’s continuity and culture.

When employees see that their colleagues are treated with fairness, respect and professionalism during leave, it reinforces their trust in the organization.

Leave is not the problem.

The absence of planning is.

Organizations that move from reactive response to intentional design, build clear processes, train supervisors and align ADA and leave programming, are able to manage leave in a way that supports both operations and people.

That is the goal.

Not perfection. Not zero disruption.

But a workplace where employees can navigate life’s inevitable challenges without fear and where employers can respond with consistency, clarity and care.

That is what good leave management looks like.

About the Author

Rachel Shaw, founder of Rachel Shaw Inc., is a nationally recognized ADA and leave management expert and sought-after speaker known for helping organizations turn legal compliance into operational strength. With more than two decades of experience, she designs in-house systems that allow employers to manage accommodations with both legal precision and human-centered leadership. She is the creator of the ADA Interactive Process Hallway® protocol, now used by thousands of organizations to manage disability accommodation requests confidently, consistently, and with care.

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Attract Retain & Develop – Nicholas Wyman

ATTRACT RETAIN & DEVELOP

Shaping a Skilled Workforce for the Future

– NICHOLAS WYMAN

New book by Workforce Specialist Nicholas Wyman offers a fresh approach to Leadership and Skills-Based Learning for the future.

Key Takeaways

Disrupt

Break free from outdated hiring models and embrace bold, game-changing workforce strategies.

Thrive

Create a high-performance culture where employees feel valued, motivated, and driven to succeed.

Evolve

Reskill, adapt, and future-proof your workforce to stay competitive in an era of rapid change.

Connect

Attract top talent and build unstoppable teams by fostering deep engagement and visionary leadership.

PRIMARY AUDIENCE

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

NICHOLAS WYMAN

Nicholas “Nick” Wyman began his career as an award-winning chef. Transitioning from the culinary arts to the business world, Nick leveraged his leadership experience to become a globally recognized workforce practitioner.

As the CEO of the Institute for Workplace Skills and Innovation Group (IWSI), he redefines career pathways, transforming how the modern world views skills and success.

Under his leadership, IWSI has ignited over twenty thousand skill-based career paths. Nick is the author of two books and contributes to Forbes, Fast Company, the MIT Press Journal, and CNBC.

Short Thesis

In today’s volatile job market, marked by talent shortages, automation, and evolving employee expectations, workforce expert Nicholas Wyman delivers a timely guide for business leaders in Attract, Retain & Develop. Wyman offers practical, forward-thinking strategies to help organizations future-proof their workforce and build thriving workplaces. Drawing on decades of experience in workforce education and skills development, including his leadership of IWSI America, Wyman challenges outdated hiring models and presents a results-driven approach to finding, training, and retaining top talent. Through real-world case studies and expert insights, he provides a clear blueprint for sustainable workforce success.

Excerpt

Over the decades my journey has taken me from being an award-winning chef to leading the international Institute for Workplace Skills and Innovation (IWSI), where I’ve built up expertise in job skills training. Our group employs eight hundred apprentices at any given time and has successfully graduated more than 20,000 others. We have a network of more than three hundred small, medium, and large employer partners. Although I hung up my apron a few years back, I still keep in touch with my culinary roots. My philosophy today leans toward farm-to-table, focusing on organic, locally sourced ingredients, and I try to live a lifestyle that’s clean and healthy.

My goal here has been to not create yet another “formula” book on the workings of the workplace. And just to be up-front, I’m no McKinsey-style management guide. You won’t find robotic, data-driven analysis or structured methodologies here. What you will find are practical ideas, including some key ingredients such as mentoring, mastering change
in a tech-driven world, and building a resilient, innovative workforce culture. To this I have mixed in (hopefully) some entrepreneurial hustle (the same hustle that gets startups off the ground).

This book is a culmination of my diverse (some say crazy) background. From culinary to corporate, talent development to embracing change, my aim is to offer fresh insights into the workplace. Those insights often take a different track from the age-old “get into a good college” mentality. Not that I have anything against college students. It’s just that in the modern age, there are many options to consider. As a hiring manager or business owner, you need to have a keen awareness of who’s out there seeking employment and what they can offer your team. You need to know how you will captivate them and demonstrate why you want them on your team—and how you will entice them to stick around for a while.

Join me on a journey as we explore innovative strategies, redefining the future of work. The path for which I advocate is a path less traveled, but one rich with creative solutions and ideas that can lead to impactful change.

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Learning or Cheap Labor? HR Experts Define the Internship Dealbreakers

Learning or Cheap Labor? HR Experts Define the Internship Dealbreakers

In the high-stakes world of internships—where every week is a chance to build skills, networks, and credibility—a nagging doubt can quietly grow: is this experience truly worth my time, or am I just filling a seat? 

On HRSpotlight, seasoned CEOs, founders, attorneys, physicians, and HR experts pull back the curtain on the subtle (and not-so-subtle) warning signs that signal an internship has crossed from growth opportunity into wasted potential. 

From vague or absent plans that leave interns on endless grunt work, to managers who ghost, teams that isolate rather than include, criticism without guidance, and environments that punish curiosity or ethical unease—these leaders share the unmistakable red flags that prompt even the most patient interns to walk away. 

Their collective wisdom underscores a powerful truth: a great internship stretches you, teaches you, and opens doors; anything less isn’t an investment in your future—it’s a detour you can choose to end. 

Discover the telltale signs that protect your time and energy. 

Read on!

A clear red flag for any intern is when the company has no real plan for your experience.

If the manager can’t explain what you’ll be doing, why it matters, or how your work contributes to the business, you’ll likely spend your time doing random tasks that teach you nothing.

A strong internship should have meaningful projects with a clear beginning and end, consistent support, and real opportunities to learn.

You should be building relationships, expanding your network, and getting exposure to leaders and executives.

There should be chances to present your work, receive feedback, and understand the impact you made.

You should also have structured ways to connect with other interns, and ideally, guidance on your resume, LinkedIn profile, and professional development.

If none of this exists and you’re not growing, gaining skills, or getting true support, it’s a sign to walk away.

Internship Without Purpose? Exit Fast

A firm that shuts you out is your signal to leave. If the attorneys don’t teach, don’t explain, and don’t bother giving you real work, you’re wasting time.

Interns learn by being pulled into the process. If you’re treated like a coat rack, that won’t happen.

Watch how the office handles ethics. If you’re told to hide information, bend a rule, or push something you know isn’t right, walk out.

You can’t rebuild trust once it’s gone, and this field depends on it.

Pay attention to the work they hand you. Research, drafting, and observing court are normal. Endless errands, phone duty, and busywork with zero exposure aren’t. That means they don’t plan on teaching you anything.

If you’re not learning, not included, and not respected, that internship’s done.

No Inclusion and Shaky Ethics Mean Exit

Here’s a red flag: an intern turns in work and gets nothing back, or some confusing criticism with no actual advice.

I’ve watched new hires get stuck and then quit because they can’t get better in that environment.

If that’s happening, it’s not your fault. Just go find a team that will actually help you grow.

No Useful Feedback Means Find Another Team

When communication inside a company is a mess and you don’t know what you’re aiming for, that’s a problem.

I once saw an intern quit a sales company because nobody knew what to prioritize and there was no clear feedback.

If you feel lost and no one is setting direction, you can’t grow there. You’re just stuck

Chaotic Teams with No Direction Waste Time

Amit Gupta
Physician, Ayurveda Practitioner & Founder, CureNatural

A clear red flag for an intern, when they should consider bailing on an internship is when they’re treated like labor, not a learner and contributor.

If all they’re doing is grunt work, with zero context, zero mentorship, and zero opportunity to grow, that’s not an internship-that’s just cheap staffing with a fancy title.

The whole point of an internship is exposure: to projects, thinking, processes, and people who actually teach you something.

If an intern’s questions are getting brushed off, if no one explains the “why” behind the tasks, or if every day feels like busy work in a vacuum, that’s a sign the company never intended to invest in them.

My advice is simple:

If an internship gives you tasks, not understanding; output, not insight; work, not learning – leave.
Internships should be opening doors, not keeping you in a corner editing PowerPoint that nobody will remember.

A good internship should stretch your skills and teach you a job skill or trade. Recognize this early.

Grunt Work Without Insight Means Leave

AJ Mizes
CEO & Founder, The Human Reach

The clearest red flag is when you are consistently denied access to the room where decisions happen.

If your work consists solely of isolated tasks and you are not invited to listen in on team meetings, project kick-offs, or client calls, it is a problem.

An internship’s value comes from seeing how a business operates, not just performing tasks in a vacuum.

You should be absorbing how professionals think, communicate, and solve problems.

A company that truly invests in interns provides a window into their world.

They understand that the experience is just as important as the output.

If you’re kept at arm’s length, it signals they view you as temporary labor, not a potential future hire worth developing.

Your goal is to learn and build connections.

If the internship prevents both, it’s not serving its purpose for you.

Shut Doors and Isolation Mean No Internship

Here’s what I’ve learned. If an intern’s concerns get brushed aside and mistakes just bring criticism, nobody feels safe enough to try. I’ve seen it firsthand.

A good team lets you mess up and learn from it.

If you’re anxious about asking questions, that’s not the right place for you.

Just start looking elsewhere.

Criticism Without Support Means Move On

As a CEO who works with many early-career professionals, I have observed the indications that the intern is not growing anymore due to the experience.

The greatest red flag is an event where the learning does not commence.

When the intern takes several weeks, and he/she is still performing basic duties without receiving actual guidance, it is normally an indication that the company is not ready to develop such individuals.

The best internship must provide times of encouragement and opportunities to develop confidence.

The absence of these elements makes the experience no longer meaningful.

The other indication is when the questions are addressed as a problem.

When the interest of an intern is ignored or shut down, it is quite evident that that is no place to cultivate.

When people are respected and encouraged, they learn better than when they are ignored.

Early identification of such trends will enable the interns to guard their time and pursue those opportunities that stand any chance of being invested in.

Stalled Growth and Punished Curiosity Mean Exit

Here’s how I know it’s time to leave.

You’re guessing what your job even is, and no one explains the plan.

I once saw interns work for weeks on projects that went nowhere because they got zero guidance.

If you feel like you’re working in a vacuum and your boss is a ghost, go find a place where people actually show up and help you do work that matters.

Ghost Managers and Aimless Projects? Leave

The HR Spotlight team thanks these industry leaders for offering their expertise and experience and sharing these insights.

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Navigating the Aftermath: Expert Advice on Employee Grief and Anxiety

Navigating the Aftermath: Expert Advice on Employee Grief and Anxiety

In the wake of layoffs, when the office air thickens with unspoken fears and survivor’s guilt, a lingering question hangs: how can organizations mend the invisible fractures left among those who remain, rebuilding not just productivity but genuine trust and resilience? 

On HRSpotlight, empathetic founders, HR directors, professors, and consultants illuminate HR’s pivotal role in navigating this emotional terrain—offering compassionate, actionable strategies that go beyond platitudes. 

From preempting rumors with factual, positive narratives about departed colleagues and facilitating small-group listening sessions, to equipping managers with tools for one-on-one check-ins, promoting EAP resources, hosting open forums for venting, and fostering “future fluidity” through skill-building workshops—these experts emphasize empathy, transparency, and proactive support to restore psychological safety. 

Their insights reveal that true recovery stems from acknowledging loss while guiding teams toward shared purpose and stability, transforming a painful chapter into an opportunity for deeper connection and renewed commitment.

Read on!

Layoffs spread through a company like fast-moving “bad memes.” Word travels quickly, and uncertainty fills the gaps. The best way to counter this is to get ahead of the narrative with positive, factual communication.

When someone is laid off, share something respectful and genuine about them, ideally right away. This could be a short post on an internal social channel or the company intranet.

If those channels aren’t effective, managers should bring up the positive context directly in their one-on-one meetings.

HR can also prepare brief, compassionate communications that highlight the employee’s contributions and send them shortly after the layoff announcement.

This helps the team remember their colleague positively and reduces unnecessary anxiety.

Positive Tributes Counter Layoff Rumors Fast

Human Resources teams that help with offboarding following layoffs can provide support and inspiration by offering direction to explore short- and long-term income opportunities, as well as career paths.

Organizations throughout the marketplace focus on placement of roles including blue collar, white collar, and entry level through senior executives.

Directing employees to appropriate, proven firms is a smart and considerate offering, allowing them to review interim, interim-to-hire, and permanent roles.

Several national and global organizations welcome talent to inquire about opportunities and submit resumes.

In today’s gig economy, the interest in short-term engagements across all industries and functions has never been higher.

Examples of experts in the space include Korn Ferry, Heidrick & Struggles, Adecco, and Manpower.

Guide Laid-Off to Proven Career Paths

In the aftermath of layoffs, HR’s role is to help employees regain trust, stability, and focus.


Start by communicating with empathy and transparency.


People need to understand what’s happened and what’s next. Equip managers to hold steady, human conversations that acknowledge loss while reinforcing connection and purpose.


Create space for reflection and recovery, whether through coaching, listening sessions, or facilitated team check-ins.


Most of all, focus the organization on moving forward with grace: honoring those who’ve left, supporting those who remain, and rebuilding confidence in the future.

Empathy and Transparency Restore Team Stability

Andrew Martin
Founder & Senior Resume Writer, Crisp Resumes

As the founder of Crisp Resumes, I regularly support clients who have lived through large restructures.

In my experience, HR plays its most important role after the announcement, not during it.

Employees who remain often feel anxious, guilty, and unsure about their own future. HR can stabilise morale by being transparent about the reasons for the layoffs, the organisation’s forward plan, and what support will be offered.

Open forums, one-on-one check-ins, access to EAP, and clear communication around role security make a significant difference.

Practical career support for impacted employees, such as resume help or interview coaching, also reassures remaining staff that the company is acting responsibly and humanely.

When HR leads with empathy and clarity, teams recover faster and trust is protected.

Post-Layoff Forums Rebuild Morale Quickly

When layoffs occur, HR’s first responsibility to remaining employees is to acknowledge the loss and not rush past it.

Provide a clear, honest explanation of the business reasons and confirm whether additional reductions are anticipated, because transparency in these moments is crucial.

Invite questions in small group meetings and equip managers with talking points so they can listen, normalize emotions, ensure consistent messaging, and reduce speculation.

Offer resources such as EAP support, job-stability FAQs, and guidance on workload changes so people do not feel abandoned, especially when layoffs may mean more work and less support.

Finally, be visibly available. As I often say, “An open door should swing out, not just in.”

Get out of your office, walk the floor, and be present where employees are working so brief check-ins and sincere appreciation can start to restore psychological safety and trust.

Visible HR Presence Rebuilds Psychological Safety

Effective communications: HR should share reasons for the layoffs and what could be ahead, so that employees are not left trying to figure out things on their own.

Create an environment conducive to this by hosting listening sessions, providing clear talking points to leadership and being responsive to communications from concerned employees. “Ghosting” is not an option.

Providing emotional support: Survivor’s guilt post layoffs is a real thing. It causes significant emotional distress.

Equip managers with tools to lead with empathy, check in on team morale, and help employees refocus on what they can control.

Guide them to external counseling and EAP services (where applicable).

Visibly reinforce employees’ value: Recognize contributions and give employees clear insight into how their role will function post-layoff and whether any responsibilities are changing.

Be direct about it. It’s important to create a sense of safety and direction as the organization moves forward.

Listening Sessions Ease Survivor’s Guilt

HR can provide emotional support and encouragement to employees during a co-worker layoff.

Transparency is limited but I do feel that if the Company had to make those decisions based on financial metrics or performance, being open and honest about that can be a motivator for employees to work harder to reach goals.

I also heavily promote the EAP (employee assistance program) to provide a safe space for those who need to discuss issues such as anxiety or abandonment with a professional.

While it may seem unconventional, create an Open Door Policy or Open Office Hours and allow people to just come in and talk or vent about it. This is a great opportunity to hear what the concerns are and effectively address them.

HR can coach managers to reassure employees that heavy workloads won’t just be dumped on them without proper recognition, appreciation or even compensation.

It is critical that the remaining employees understand the business decision, what is expected from them and to buy into the organizational changes.

Open Door Hours Let Teams Vent

HR can play a steadying role when employees feel shaken by layoffs.

People need honest communication, emotional support, and a sense of direction. As I often say, “Employees don’t just need to know what happened—they need help understanding how to move forward.”

One useful idea is Future Fluidity, a plain-language approach to adapting in uncertain times.

It means helping people understand changing workplace trends, adjust to new expectations, and stay emotionally grounded.

HR can support this through brief workshops, open office hours, and practical skill-building resources.

In moments like these, “The most important thing HR can offer is a feeling of agency—reminding employees they still have choices and a path ahead.”

Future Fluidity Workshops Restore Agency

When layoffs strike, the real aftershock isn’t in the numbers—it’s in the narrative. People start rewriting the story of who they are and where they belong. That’s where HR becomes the storyteller-in-chief.

Don’t rush to spin optimism; invite truth. Host small, human conversations where employees can unpack what happened and rebuild meaning together.

When people find language for loss, they rediscover power. Do that well, and the company doesn’t just recover—it reawakens.

Because resilience isn’t born from comfort; it’s born from clarity, connection, and the courage to face what’s real and still believe in what’s next.

Honest Conversations Reawaken Team Resilience

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Women’s History Month Series – In Conversation with Rachel Shaw

HR Spotlight Interview

Rachel Shaw

Women's History Month Interview Series

In Conversation with Rachel Shaw

Joining us is Rachel Shaw, the founder of Rachel Shaw Inc. and a nationally recognized expert who has spent over two decades helping organizations turn complex compliance into operational strength.

Rachel is the visionary behind the ADA Interactive Process Hallway® protocol, a system now utilized by thousands of organizations to navigate disability accommodations with consistency, legal precision, and, most importantly, care. Today, she shares her “superpowers” for cooling off a workplace on fire, why she’s trading “culture fit” for “culture add,” and how she navigates the unique pressures of being a “fixer” in the corporate world.

Thank you for joining us, Rachel! HR has been through the wringer lately. From being the ‘bad guys’ during layoffs to the ‘fun police’ during RTO, a lot’s been happening. If you could clear the air right now, what is the one thing you wish every employee understood about your job?

Rachel Shaw:

HR is not the “fun police.” We are the stability system of the organization.

We are responsible for ensuring that decisions are made consistently, legally, and in a way that allows the organization to survive long-term. Sometimes that means saying no. Sometimes that means enforcing boundaries. The goal is not control. The goal is fairness, sustainability and clarity.

The best HR professionals care deeply about people and the organization’s mission. Our job is to hold both at the same time, even when it is uncomfortable.

We’ve heard it said that ‘Nobody plans to go into HR; they are usually dragged into it because they are good at listening.’ Is that true for you? What was the specific moment you realized, ‘Oh, I’m actually meant to do this’?

Rachel Shaw:

Not at all. An early career assessment actually told me HR was the least likely fit for me.

What I discovered over time is that HR is the perfect fit for people who can do three things well. Have hard conversations with care. See the complexity in human behavior. Stay grounded in what is right and defensible.

I am deeply mission-driven. I feel the human emotion in situations, but I am not led by it. I am led by data, process, and legal guidance while still caring about the human in front of me. That combination is what made me realize this is exactly where I am meant to be.

HR requires a weird mix of skills. You have to be part lawyer, part therapist, and part data analyst. If we stripped away the job title, what is the one ‘superpower’ you rely on most when the office is on fire?

Rachel Shaw:

Curiosity.

When something goes wrong in a workplace, most people react. I get curious. What happened. What system failed. What data are we missing. What assumption are we making.

Curiosity slows down reaction and replaces it with better decision-making. It allows me to solve the right problem, not just the loudest one.

If you could describe the current ‘mood’ of the workforce in 2026 using just one word, what would it be? Why?

Rachel Shaw:

Disconnected.

Not because people do not care, but because systems, leadership and work design have not caught up with how people actually live and work today. The opportunity in 2026 is to rebuild connections with intention.

We often talk about the ‘Glass Ceiling,’ but lately, the conversation has shifted to the ‘Glass Cliff’, where women are promoted to leadership only during times of crisis. Have you ever felt that pressure to be the ‘fixer’ in a broken system?

Rachel Shaw:

I absolutely identify as a fixer.

For women and other underrepresented groups, the standard has historically been higher. That pressure forces you to be sharper, faster and more creative. That pressure, while unfair, has also produced extraordinary leadership.

I walk into rooms assuming something can be better and that I have a role in making it better. That mindset is not ego. It is ownership.

Women in HR often get unfairly pigeonholed as the ‘office mom’ or the ‘policy police.’ How do you dismantle those stereotypes to ensure you are seen as a strategic business architect first?

Rachel Shaw:

I dismantle it by focusing on business outcomes.

HR drives profit, productivity, retention and risk management. We use data, process and structure to get there while also caring about people.

One example early in my career. HR was expected to provide food for every meeting. Instead of arguing about it, I rotated responsibility across departments. Within months, the practice disappeared because once everyone shared the labor, they realized it was not necessary.

I do not argue stereotypes. I redesign systems.

HR professionals are the ‘first responders’ of the corporate world, handling grief, layoffs, and conflict. What is your specific protocol for protecting your own peace after a day of absorbing everyone else’s stress?

Rachel Shaw:

I use what I call the pillow test.

If I can put my head down at night and not replay the day, I know I acted with integrity. If I cannot, I ask two questions. Did I do something that needs to be corrected? Or did something happen that I need to process?

Then I take action. I adjust the process, or I get support.

Replaying the past without action is not useful. Learning from it is.

Without naming names, tell us about a time you had to deliver tough news (a termination, a restructuring) that actually taught you something profound about leadership or empathy.

Rachel Shaw:

Early in my career, I realized that even when a termination decision is legally and operationally correct, the process determines whether it causes unnecessary harm.

If an employee does not understand how the decision was made, they experience it as something done to them rather than something they were part of.

That insight led me to create the Interactive Process Hallway® protocol, a system that gives employees clarity, time and information so they can understand and accept decisions, even difficult ones.

Good HR reduces trauma. Great HR reduces risk and trauma.

Have you ever felt pressure to soften your delivery or ‘be nice’ in a way that male counterparts aren’t? How do you balance empathy with the need to be firm on policy?

Rachel Shaw:

I have always been direct. I have been told I am too much, too fast, or too direct.

What I have learned is this. Employees do not need you to be soft. They need you to be honest, respectful and consistent.

People can feel when empathy is performative. What they trust is clarity delivered with care.

My success has always come from employees and unions knowing that even on their worst day, I will treat them with dignity.

The age-old tension is between ‘People’ and ‘Profits.’ Can you share a specific example where you had to fight for a budget or a benefit that didn’t have an immediate ROI, but you knew was critical for the culture?

Rachel Shaw:

This shows up most clearly in onboarding and leadership development.

I often tell leaders to think about onboarding the way colleges think about frosh orientation. When a student arrives on campus, there is an intentional experience designed to help them understand the culture, learn the rules, build relationships and feel a sense of belonging. We do that because we know it increases success, retention, and engagement.

Yet in the workplace, we bring employees in, hand them a laptop and expect them to figure it out.

If organizations invested in onboarding as a structured, multi-day experience focused on connection, clarity and culture, and paired that with leadership development that teaches supervisors how to lead humans, not just manage tasks, we would see measurable improvements in retention, productivity and engagement.

The return on investment is there. Most organizations simply do not measure it, or they do not invest long enough to see it.

We talk a lot about ‘gut feeling’ in hiring. How are you using data to challenge your own biases, or the biases of hiring managers, when it comes to promoting women and underrepresented talent?

Rachel Shaw:

“Gut Feeling” is often a placeholder for bias.

To counter that, we need structured interviews, consistent scoring and when possible, blind or partially blind early-stage processes.

Data does not eliminate bias, but it forces us to justify our decisions with evidence rather than instinct.

Statistically, women get stuck at the first step up to manager. As an HR leader, what is one systemic change you’ve implemented (or want to) that actually fixes this ‘broken rung’?

Rachel Shaw:

One of the most effective strategies I have implemented is using third-party technical interview panels in the early stages of hiring.

These panels focus strictly on capability, not personality or familiarity, and they provide a fact-based recommendation to the hiring authority. When there is a mismatch between the panel’s recommendation and the hiring manager’s preference, it creates a necessary coaching conversation. I will often ask a simple question: what is getting in your way of selecting this candidate?

In one case, a candidate who used a wheelchair was the top choice of the panel but not the hiring manager. When we talked it through, the concerns that surfaced were assumptions about travel, attendance and potential accommodation costs. We were able to walk through each concern with actual data, including the candidate’s strong attendance record, prior travel requirements, and the organization’s existing ADA-compliant infrastructure and centralized accommodation budget.

The manager was able to move from assumption to evidence, and the candidate was ultimately hired and has been successful in the role for many years.

The lesson is not that bias can be eliminated. It cannot. The lesson is that organizations can build systems that slow the decision down, surface the bias and require leaders to move from belief to data before they make hiring decisions.

What is the biggest myth about working in HR that you wish would die?

Rachel Shaw:

That HR is the heart of the organization.

We are not the heart. We are the entire cardiovascular system. We touch every part of the organization. When we are working well, everything functions. When we are not, everything feels it.

If you could ban one corporate buzzword forever, what would it be?

Rachel Shaw:

Culture fit.

What we should be talking about is culture add, how someone expands the organization’s thinking, not how closely they mirror it.

HR is often described as a thankless job—you’re the villain when things go wrong and invisible when things go right. Why do you stay? What is the specific moment that reminds you ‘This is why I do this’?

Rachel Shaw:

I stay because of the moments when someone says, ‘That was one of the hardest days of my life and you made it easier’.

That is the work. That is the responsibility. When it is done well, it changes how people experience their workplace and sometimes their lives.

HR is thankless only when it is done poorly or unsupported. When it is done well, it is one of the most meaningful roles in any organization.

“We are not the heart; we are the entire cardiovascular system.”

That perspective from Rachel Shaw perfectly encapsulates the vital, often invisible work that defines modern HR. From dismantling the “office mom” stereotype to replacing “gut feelings” with data-driven equity, Rachel’s insights remind us that the strongest systems are those built on curiosity, clarity, and dignity.

As we celebrate Women’s History Month, Rachel’s journey serves as a powerful blueprint for any leader looking to redesign broken systems rather than just managing within them. A huge thank you to Rachel Shaw for her transparency and for giving us a masterclass in leading with both a steady hand and a human heart.

Rachel Shaw, founder of Rachel Shaw Inc., is a nationally recognized ADA and leave management expert and sought-after speaker known for helping organizations turn legal compliance into operational strength. With more than two decades of experience, she designs in-house systems that allow employers to manage accommodations with both legal precision and human-centered leadership. She is the creator of the ADA Interactive Process Hallway® protocol, now used by thousands of organizations to manage disability accommodation requests confidently, consistently, and with care.

 

 

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